IDS #283 - Moose Are Sneaky

Uh, and we have an echo. Maybe it means something from the future

>> Darin: and we have an echo. Hold on.

>> Mike: Yeah, I have the echo too. Oh, hold on. Okay. Is that better?

>> Mike: My big beautiful hands.

>> Darin: Hello.

>> Mike: Maybe it means something from the future.


Welcome to Irritable Dad Syndrome, Cincinnati's comedy podcast

>> Mike: Let'S wrap the show up and go home now.

>> Dave: Time now for Irritable Dad Syndrome. You can see, feel, and hear the softness. Put your hands together for your hosts, Mike and Darren.

>> Darin: Hi, I'm Darren.

>> Mike: I'm Mike.

>> Darin: Welcome to Irritable Dad Syndrome, Cincinnati's comedy podcast. This is episode 283 and hopefully we will be able to get this episode going because we have been futzing around for 45 minutes doing technical, things, trying to fix things. And last week, if you listen to episode 282, you'll notice that the audio sounded perfect. But it didn't sound perfect when we first downloaded it. It sounded high pitched. We sounded like chipmunks. Is that what they do? Is that what they do? Before the Martians put their fingers in there.

>> Mike: You got it. You got to flop.

>> Darin: It got a flow of. It was crackly. It was jumpy. It was. And but yeah, we we, we fixed that. Anyway, we're hoping that this week will go off without a hitch. I'm very excited to be here. And, and. Hi, Mike.

>> Mike: Hi, how are you doing? Darren says we fixed it. What that means is Mike fixed is. No, it means that me about three glasses of wine into working on it. After about four hours of cussing.

>> Darin: Yep.

>> Mike: And giving the dog the old hairy eyeball.

>> Mike: Look it up. I finally somehow ended up with audio that Darren was able to mangle into an episode.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: But dear friends, if you are ever considering starting a podcast, you have to be ready to just throw away days of your life. Solving problems that didn't exist.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: And then you solve them and you don't know how that happened.

>> Darin: Yeah. You have to be patient. So anyway, we're very happy that you're here. We got a review. Oh, Adam Unger sent me a message. He says, dear Irritable dad syndrome, I listened to my first episode of your podcast. Very funny and entertaining. It took the edge off the commute to work so he is going to listen to more episodes. Adam Unger, thank you so much.


We have a very special guest with us this week. He is the host of the Letterman podcast

We have a very special guest with us this week. We have Mike Chisholm. He is the host of the Letterman podcast. I was the first guest on the Letterman podcast. He has been on our show a few times. We did our great, U2 David Letterman crossover episode. We, when they did the Disney plus special and we have him again with us this week to talk about the Rock and Roll hall of Fame, induction ceremony. We're also going to talk about Canada. Mike has a dozen questions about Canada.

>> Mike: I have so many moose questions.

>> Darin: Yeah.


Mike Chisholm is the host of Irritable Dad Syndrome

Mike Chisholm, welcome back to Irritable Dad Syndrome.

>> Mike: Before we begin, I would like to note that Mangled Audio was the name of the band I participated in in college.

>> Darin: Stealing my jokes.

>> Mike: I was, I was dancing the entire time you guys were talking. I was dancing to the theme song. I imagine your show has.

>> Darin: Oh, yes, our theme song is, pretty good.

>> Mike: It is pretty.

>> Darin: I know.

>> Mike: I, I, It's a decent one. It's only like the third one I listened to before I got the. Well, purchased it.

>> Darin: We will be having dinner and if we, if we.

>> Mike: Together.

>> Darin: No, like, like at home. I've had dinner. I've had dinner with Mike. But no, if I'm having dinner at home with the wife and the kids and we stop one, part of a conversation, then we go into another topic, I will go. Because it leads into it. That's our segue. That's our Law and order thing. So, Mike, how you doing?

>> Mike: It's also the thing that'll get us kicked off YouTube.

>> Darin: That's right. Well, no, we purchased the rights.

>> Mike: We purchased it. We have rights to it.

>> Darin: So we own it.

>> Mike: Okay, great.

>> Darin: So here's the great thing about being friends with Mike Chisholm. Because he has the Letterman podcast. His podcast. It's, It's a great podcast. It's fantastic. He has amazing guests. He's always bringing on a writer, a producer, a makeup artist, one, of the lighters, someone who.

>> Mike: A lighting person.

>> Darin: Yeah, yeah, yes, exactly. All these people who worked with Late show or Late Night with David Letterman. And he has, people who were guests on the show, and he has people on the show where are part of the Letterman community, which is why I was, his first guest. And the great thing is you have a guest podcast. We sometimes have guests on Irritable Dad Syndrome, but not all the time. If we were a guest podcast, I don't know that you and I would be able to remain friends, because there would be so much competition. But since we're not a guest podcast, you and I pose no threat to each other.

>> Mike: You're exactly right. The competition would be thick like a fog.

>> Darin: You.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: Hm. Absolutely.


Mike Odle has a thousand questions for you about Canada

But Mike is in Canada. Mike Odle has like a thousand questions for you. And I think I'm just gonna have to walk away.

>> Mike: Are there moose crossings?

>> Mike: Yeah. yes, definitely.

>> Mike: Okay. Have you ever had. Excuse me. Have you ever had a moose cross in front of your vehicle?

>> Mike: Oh my God. Yeah. Like I, was driving back from. Okay. So I was staying in Calgary, Alberta. Calgary, Alberta and Denver many times are connected. They have a similar sort of vibe.

>> Mike: I see that. I get that.

>> Mike: Except Calgary is a little bit more. A little bit more blue collar.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Lots, of oil field work around and stuff like that.

>> Mike: A bit more Canadian.

>> Mike: Calgary to Banff. Banff is a very, very, very famous world class ski destination.

>> Mike: Beautiful fat ass. Mother.

>> Mike: Yeah, but it's two Fs. But, Mother.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: Other father.

>> Mike: Bam.

>> Mike: Anyway. Bam. Ah, bam. Alberta.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: That's also the noise that Nightcrawler makes when he teleports. But it's spelled differently.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: You know, it's good when we connect with the comics.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: But do they, do they see you? Do the moose see you? Do they look at you?


Darren and I talk about moose more than we should

>> Mike: Okay, so. So we're driving back.

>> Mike: Uhhuh.

>> Darin: Uh-huh.

>> Mike: And it's night time and we see.

>> Mike: I'm already terrified.

>> Mike: We see in the. It's a, it's a four lane highway. Like two lanes this way, two lanes this way. You're going, you're going to the, the, the, the ski chalet for the weekend.

>> Darin: We understand the concept of a highway.

>> Mike: Suddenly in the middle between the lanes.

>> Darin: If it's four lanes, it just went one direction.

>> Mike: Wait, in the middle, in the median between. In the middle of the four lane.

>> Mike: Yes. We thought we witnessed one of the horses of the apocalypse. It was big.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: Strides were massive. And it was going.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: And we like it bigger than a horse. Like you don't understand. And, oh, powerful. And you're like, oh, don't turn that rack into this car because it's gonna be really nasty. Which happens. So there are moose crossing. There's lots of deer crossing.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Lots of different, different, mountain goat crossing. Lots of different, different ones. So I believe squirrel too.

>> Mike: So Darren and I, one of the reasons we started. We talk about moose more than.

>> Darin: More than.

>> Mike: More than we should.

>> Mike: Have you had moose burgers?

>> Mike: No. No. What are you. That. I can't really.

>> Mike: My dad would hunt them when we were kid. Oh, it's the best meat you'll ever have.

>> Darin: A, moose.

>> Mike: Can you like, just go to a, a burger joint in the, in the Canadians and get a moose burger?

>> Mike: There's lots of bison, there's definitely venison, and there's definitely moose. Growing up where we grew up, like, if you didn't get a moose. One of your buddies probably got one and you kind of. You, you know, g. Traded pepperoni and traded the different.

>> Mike: Like, still talking about an animal, aren't we?

>> Mike: Yeah, man, the best. The best. You get a good butcher and it's better than anything you'll get at the supermarket. So anyway, yeah, moose. Moose is like my favorite.

>> Darin: So I've had deer meat. Okay.

>> Mike: Yeah, deer meat are like, They're not moose.

>> Darin: No, no deer or not moose. No, they're not. God, you're a genius.


This is absolutely represent zoology portion of our show

>> Mike: By the way, someone called out the grizzly bear in Banff. Yes. Holla.

>> Mike: This is absolutely represent zoology portion of our show. No, but the reason we talk about moose so much is I saw a. It was on the tiktoks or a reel or something, a video of, somebody was just standing in a field and a moose walked up behind them. And they didn't notice because they just, you know, the moose are sneaky and. And mean. M. And the guy turned around and as he turned, the moose looked right at it. I mean, he was right. The moose's nose or snout almost hit him. He screamed. Yeah, the most high pitched scream. And immediately dropped to a fetal position and continued to scream. And his friend, who was holding. Who was taking this video, started running away, but keeping the video on him.

>> Darin: And.

>> Mike: And he was just laying in a fetal position screaming. And the last thing you see is the moose looks up at the guy running away with the camera and then the moose walks away.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: I had nightmares that night about a moose.

>> Mike: Holy crap.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: That's harrowing. That is harrowing.

>> Darin: So one of the things that I learned a year or so ago about moose is that they shed their antlers.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: And I.

>> Mike: What?

>> Darin: I did not believe that. And they can basically just shake and their antlers will fall off.

>> Mike: We're 30 minutes.

>> Darin: Yep.

>> Mike: The first part of this.

>> Mike: It'S, it's. By the way, it's a trail for hunters as well. Like, that's. That's the type of stuff that they track.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, we don't. I mean, we don't want to be, What's that called? base or surface level? Only with the Canadian stuff. But what about rush? So tell me.

>> Darin: Hold on a second.

>> Mike: Hold on. You got more moose?

>> Darin: Well, no, but before we get off and. Because we're going to do this whole entire episode about Canada and I wanted to ask him two questions about his podcast, and then we can do whatever the hell.


You've had the Letterman podcast for three years now

>> Mike: Oh, yeah, we have your podcast.

>> Darin: So you've had the Letterman podcast for how many. Like, three years now.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: Three years.

>> Darin: Something that I don't think I've ever asked you is who was the first guest that you had on your show that you're sitting there like, I cannot believe I got this person to be on my show?

>> Mike: Tom Driessen.

>> Darin: Tom Driessen. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. He's been on a couple times, right?

>> Mike: He has. And. And I think I would say, say we're due.

>> Darin: Uh-huh.

>> Mike: I want to bring Tom Dries in up here, and. And. And I want to get him to do a special up here.

>> Darin: Yeah, we've got a.

>> Mike: There's a club here that I would love him to come up and do. And. And, I mean, just. Just even say those words out loud. M. Right now. But, I mean, I'm so grateful, and it's a dream come true.

>> Darin: And you had him on relatively early. Right?

>> Mike: Like, I think he was episode six or seven. I think it was his first. First two parter, six and seven. And then shortly after Steve o'. Donnel.

>> Darin: Steve o' Donnell was head writer for Late Night with David Letterman. Yeah.

>> Mike: one of the greatest comedy writers. If not, you know what, if there was a category for the greatest comedy writer of all time, he would certainly be, in the nomination pile.

>> Darin: I met him. He's a nice guy.

>> Mike: Phenomenal.

>> Darin: He's a super, super nice guy. Yeah.

>> Mike: Yeah, we're good. Allison. Actually, our friend Allison Lips. Shout out to Alison Lips.

>> Darin: Hi, Allison.

>> Mike: She.

>> Mike: Hi, Allison. Tomorrow, being, Wednesday is talking to Steve o', Donnell, but this episode will come out after that conversation, which might be a time loop. I don't know if it's a time loop.

>> Darin: You.

>> Mike: And I did a time loop, Darren, and I was very pleased with it.

>> Darin: We did. Yeah.

>> Mike: I was very pleased.

>> Darin: I got to quasi host the Letterman podcast. I basically shot an introduction and an outro for it.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: yep. And. And, Kyle Slingo was thrilled with that. So if he's happy, everybody's happy. Agreed. and then. Okay.

>> Mike: And then shout out to Kyle.

>> Darin: So. Yeah.


If it was between Bill Wendell and Alan Coulter, who would win

So one more Letterman question.

>> Mike: Sure.

>> Darin: As an avid fan of Late Night with David Letterman and the Late show with David Letterman and my next guest and. And everything that is David Letterman in a cage fight. If it was between Bill Wendell and Alan Coulter, who would win?

>> Mike: Describe the, the. The type of pants Bill Wendell would.

>> Darin: Be wearing, the type of pant. They'd both be very comfortable. Would it be.

>> Mike: Would he be in, like, professional wrestler underwear?

>> Darin: They would both be in, unitards.

>> Mike: Be like the Superman underwear.

>> Darin: I mean, it's underwear, but there's tighter outside the sweatpants. Yeah. Or.

>> Mike: Well, if Bill turns around and backs up towards you, that is a formidable fear that you would have to fight through.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: So you're going to go with Bill Wendell.

>> Mike: If he fights dirty, we're in trouble.

>> Darin: M. See, I think Alan Coulter's got the arm link, though.

>> Mike: No, you got to go with Big Red. You always go Big Red. Big Red is like. Big Red is eternal. Like, a Big Red is like. He might be my very favorite part of everything. Letterman. Alan Coulter is, like, so up there for me. I love him so much.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: you know, and. And he could overcome even Bill Wendell's gassy, ways.

>> Darin: It's.

>> Mike: All respect to Bill Wendell.


Uber producer Robert Morton has a business card with his name on it

>> Darin: Over 15 million people are enjoying the closest thing to a perfect shave with the Gillette Track 2 razor. The Gillette Track 2 shaving system. The closest thing to a perfect shave.

>> Mike: Can I flex here for a sec? Can I flex?

>> Mike: Yeah, do all your flexing.

>> Mike: I just had an episode with Zoe Friedman, Legendary Zoe Friedman, you know, comedy royalty. And then her first job when she was 19 was working for Letterman. She did it for 12 years. It was awesome. We were talking about Morty and how much we love Morty.

>> Darin: Y.

>> Mike: And she had worked for Morty, and then Morty worked for her at one point. And they've become like contemporaries. And she loves Morty. We all love Morty. And I said, want to know how cool Robert Morton is? And she goes, yeah. I said, okay, there's something back here. It's a business card. Okay. And it's like. Remember in American Psycho when they were comparing.

>> Mike: Oh, yeah, the business card. Eggshell white versus the, alabaster. Yeah.

>> Mike: This is a cream colored card, and it has a bit of texture on it. All it says is Robert Morton. That's all it says.

>> Mike: That's awesome.

>> Darin: No title.

>> Mike: Nah.

>> Mike: And he writes on it Respect with an exclamation point. If there was a house fire, this would be one of the things I would grab.

>> Darin: On the way out, it just says, Robert.

>> Mike: I at rough. How badass is this guy? Uber producer Robert Morton. I love him. And, and I said. And I saw. I was showing Zoe, and she's like, yeah, that's. The episode's coming out. I forget her reaction to it. But we. It was funny anyway.

>> Darin: That's hilarious.


What are some things that are on the way in The Letterman podcast

>> Dave: You are listening to Irritable Dad Syndrome, the most popular podcast in Canada.

>> Mike: That's right.

>> Darin: What are some things that are on the way in The Letterman podcast. What have you got brewing? Can you give me any inside deets? The skinny. Yeah, the 41 1.

>> Mike: Sure.

>> Mike: Okay. So, yeah, we're going to release the video that we had to cut. And this is proof that I, can keep a secret. Last, April, we shot an episode with, or may maybe with Jordan Zevon.

>> Mike: And on that episode, he announced, it was a galactic announcement. He was announcing to the galaxy that David Letterman was going to induct Warren Zevon into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. And he did the galactic premiere episode. Or, news, I should say. he let that drop on the Letterman podcast. And then the next day I got a message from him saying, hey, you got to cut that out. The Rock and Roll hall of Fame, they want to do something. They want to make a special announcement and all that. So I couldn't announce it. And I'm like, okay, well, I'll just wait. And I made a video with a new intro. so when they announced it officially, I could then say, hey, we knew that. And maybe Late Nighter would give us a shout out, because I just. I have Late Nighter envy. I don't. I. I'm sad that we don't. We don't get shout outs, very much from Late Nighter and.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: I would like to change that. I don't know. This just became a therapy session. Where was I going with that?

>> Darin: if you're coming to us for therapy.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I feel sorry.

>> Mike: Yeah, we got, Yeah.

>> Darin: Because our advice is you're so screwed. Yeah. Sucks to be you.

>> Mike: I mean, game recognizing.

>> Darin: How does that make you feel?

>> Mike: Yeah, Yeah, I just go back to Stuart Smally. I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and.

>> Darin: God dog on it. Dog.

>> Mike: Darn it. Go.

>> Darin: Darn it, Dad. G it.

>> Mike: People like me. Dang habit. People like me.

>> Mike: Dag nab it.


So you mentioned Letterman inducting Warren Zon

>> Darin: So you mentioned Letterman inducting Warren Zon. How great was that? I mean, that was, it was so great. And Letterman comes out there and he's. He's trying. You can tell he's trying to keep it together. Hi, I'm Dave. Call me the Breeze. Letterman.

>> Mike: I want. You know what? We're gonna do it right now. We're gonna text Walter Kim.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Say please. Okay. We're gonna do this right now.

>> Darin: Okay. Oh, tell Walter I said hi.

>> Mike: Should I shoot a video?

>> Darin: sure. Sure. Yeah. It's just our podcast. Do whatever the hell you want.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: All right. Okay, let's do this.

>> Mike: We're.

>> Darin: We're reaching out to Walter. Cam.

>> Mike: Yeah, this is what we're gonna do.

>> Darin: Oh, while you're at it, reach out to Rupert G. And ask him.

>> Mike: Okay. Are we ready?

>> Darin: Sure. Yeah, we're ready to go.


Mr. Kim joins us to discuss the Irritable Dad Syndrome podcast

>> Mike: Mr. Walter Kim. it's Mike Chisholm, host of the Letterman podcast, and these two guys, Darren and Mike, who are the hosts of the Irritable Dad Syndrome podcast.

>> Darin: Hi, Walter.

>> Mike: What up?

>> Mike: Yeah, what up? We're, doing a simulcast right now.

>> Mike: Isn't that what Tom Snyder called it? What did he call it? No, he called it the.

>> Darin: The Snyder cast. The Snyder cast.

>> Mike: The Snyder cast.

>> Darin: It doesn't matter.


Could you please put a letterman shirt that features Dave the Breeze Letterman

>> Mike: Yeah, we got a request for you.

>> Mike: In the Letterman, store. Could you please put a letterman shirt that features Dave the Breeze Letterman in some way or another?

>> Darin: Dave, that's our request. Call me the Breeze.

>> Mike: Letterman.

>> Mike: Call me the Breeze Letterman.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: There you go. Call me the Breeze. The gauntlet has been thrown down.

>> Darin: And then just. And then just count the money as it rolls in.

>> Mike: Yeah, you could probably count it by fives. All right, that's it. Thanks, Walter. I appreciate you. We love what you're doing. We all love what you guys are doing. Thank you very, very much. More Barbara Gain show, please. Anything else?

>> Darin: No, I'm good, boys. Yeah.

>> Mike: Okay. Yeah, you're gonna leave me on the branch. Okay, bye. Okay.


Darren Walters: Walter Kim stopped everything to say hello to me

All right.

>> Darin: no, and if I could say something cool about Walter Kim. The one time that I met him was at Rupert G's retirement party and I walked into the Ed Sullivan Theater and you, Mike Chisholm, says, oh, hey, Darren. And Walter overheard you say that and he said, darren's here. And Walter stopped what he was doing. I don't care what he was doing. He stopped everything and came over to say hello to me because he heard that I was coming and he made sure that. To let me know that I was welcome there.

>> Mike: That's awesome.

>> Darin: And I thought, how cool. Walter Kim doesn't know me. Walter Kim doesn't have to even acknowledge me. But Walter Kim made a point to let me know that he was happy that I was there and that will forever stay with me. So that was cool. Walter Kim's a good guy.

>> Mike: Can I bond with you, Walters? about Walter's wife? Yeah, Nancy.

>> Darin: Nancy's awesome.

>> Mike: So you know my story, the story that I will not stop telling? which is about how the, The.

>> Mike: The lovely lady with three young.

>> Darin: Yeah, yeah, that one.

>> Mike: The night of the picture. Yeah, the night of the picture, when Dave and I are doing the Q A. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, David are doing the Q A. And one of the questions I asked was, are you going to have Jay Leno or Brian Williams back on the show for the last episode? And Dave goes and says, okay, well, let's see. Hey Nancy, come on over here. And I think Nancy had the podium that night. And Nancy had to come out and, and they say, okay, are we planning on having Mr. Leno or Mr. Williams back on? She said, we've, we're, we're talking with both groups. And that was all she said that was featured on CNN the next day, by the way.

>> Darin: Oh, wow.

>> Mike: So after Rupert's party, I pull Nancy aside, I said, can I, can I ask you about that moment? Do you remember that moment? And she goes, oh yeah, it's the only time I ever got pulled out. I think she said, the only time she ever got pulled out during a Q and A. And I was like, that does that crazy awesome moment. Like my favorite moment. You're a part of it, Nancy. Like you were a part of it. And then I was a dumbass and I didn't get a picture with her anyway. But I keep that in my heart that I was able to share with her that she was part of that moment until her got shown on cnn. I think I might even show the article. You can still find the article that's out there and about it.

>> Darin: Yeah. Anyway, those moments, they really stick with you. And I think those are, those are more awesome than photos.

>> Darin: You know, what you, what you got in here, and that's an audio podcast in your heart and in your memory. I think those stick with you way longer than the, than the photos, so absolutely. Well, cool. But again, you know, you have a very good podcast, a very, very good podcast. And for anybody to know one.

>> Mike: Darren takes one to no one.

>> Darin: Thank you.


Dave gave a wonderful tribute to Warren Zevon on his podcast

Anybody out there in irritable dad syndrome land. After you listen to this podcast, go, go and listen to the Letterman podcast with Mike Chisholm. it's fascinating. Very good interview and my God, you get some fantastic guests on the show.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, thank you. And it'll put you right to sleep. But promise you a lucid dream.

>> Darin: Better than Ambien.

>> Mike: No, that's right. It promises you a lucid dream. No, I appreciate that. It's, it's it's a work in progress. We're building a community. We're indie and loving being indie, you know, and stumbling forward and I think we're going to stumble some pretty, some pretty cool, cool places here coming up. So but yeah, David, the Rock and Roll hall of Fame man. Like Darren, you know, you're a giant Letterman fan.

>> Darin: Oh yeah.

>> Mike: Mike, you. Love you too.

>> Darin: and, and Mike's also.

>> Mike: I, I am a Letterman fan. Yeah.

>> Mike: Not to the level that speech, you know, like you think about it, we've been waiting for that speech probably since before Warren even passed.

>> Darin: Yeah. Oh yeah.

>> Mike: And certainly the year that he passed. And it's interesting because I believe the speech that Dave. So it was. God, I, I want to know the process of how it was written, what was put into the teleprompter, what wasn't. You know, I would love to see that. I, I seeing him in LA a couple of times. You know, he does have a digital monitor back there that throws up some things. But, you know, it was so beautifully written. It was the same speech he would have given if he gave it if Warren passed just a few months ago. He would have talked about the guitar.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: He would have talked about the three songs in the. And he would have talked about Enjoy Every Sandwich, you know that he would have talked about those things whether it was done then or now. But I think the fact that it waited until now.

>> Mike: The benefit of that is that it introduces war into a generation of people. That it might not have happened if he would have been inducted 20 years ago. So that's the way I see it. And it was meant to be that way. It was a universal thing, maybe even a, piece of magic for more and himself from beyond.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: That's how I took that speech. And that's like the feelings that it made me feel knowing that I've been connected to him through the show.

>> Mike: Since I was in my pre teen years.

>> Darin: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Mike: So anyway, that's my, that. There you go. Thank you for letting me exhale that.

>> Darin: I will admit that Dave caught me off guard with the types of Warren Zevon songs I was.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And he followed the rule of three. Bing, bang, bong is the punchline.

>> Mike: Right.

>> Darin: So it was what songs about Strife? Well, I can't remember the first category, Songs about Strife. The second one was Love Songs and the third one was songs about werewolves. And I literally spit up my drink when he said that and I just loved it. But it was great. And when he inducted Pearl, Jamie and he said, you know, it's like, I hope that the, this hall would welcome me back to induct my friend Warren Zevon. And I was just like, if they don't bring him back, there's just definitely an injustice. So he was the perfect person to induct him. I really thought that Jackson Brown would have been there, but. And I was trying so hard because, Mike Chisholm and I. Mike have, a mutual friend and Adam Unger. And I was trying so hard to get something out of Adam, and he would not tell me. I'm like, is it Jackson Brown? Is Jackson Brown gonna be performing? And. And he wouldn't tell me. Oh, the Killers.

>> Mike: Ah. Not much cooler than that. Like, I. I don't know if there was more perfect choice than the Killers.

>> Darin: Yeah. And I think the Killers should perform at our Super Bowl. So there you go. I, Great. Definitely got to bring the Killers on at the NFL. If you guys listen. The war and tribute was great. And start to finish that Rock and Roll hall theme. Induction was insane.

>> Mike: Well, now I need to watch it.

>> Darin: They opened up with the Sly and the Family Stone tribute with Stevie Wonder and Beck and Flea and, Jennifer, Hudson. I can't remember. That was insane. The bad.

>> Mike: Shout out to Felicia Collins on that right there.


Bad Company tribute was great. Brian Adams sounded great. The Black Crows performed amazing

Shout out to Felicia.

>> Darin: Yeah. You know, the Bad Company tribute was great. Brian Adams sounded great. Here's a cool thing about Chris Robinson, okay? Chris Robinson is lead singer of the Black Cross. They were on the ballot. They did not get inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame this year, but they invited Chris and he still came and performed. Yeah. So cool. That guy's got an insane voice and he was killing it. He was absolutely killing it. And outside, I don't know why.

>> Mike: The Black Crows. Maybe the legacy of the Black Crows is there are kind of a. Not quite one and done, but not much more. You know, like, we made our statement and that was it. Like. But it seems like it could be a band that could have, like, 20 albums out.

>> Darin: Two of the biggest highlights for me, Chubby Checker, okay? This guy's.

>> Mike: That was surprising.

>> Darin: Hear me out. 83 years old, he was there. Well, here's the thing. He didn't come to the. He didn't go. He didn't go to the thing. And I'm like, why would you not go to the Rock and Roll hall of Fame? You get inducted. Why would you not go? He had a gig. He was booked, on a gig, and he's like, I've. You know, I've got paying fans. Yeah. And he didn't want people to think that he was retired.

>> Mike: And then he showed up and was.

>> Darin: Coming out of retirement. So he accepted his trophy in front of his audience at his Gig and.

>> Mike: Then performed the Twist.

>> Darin: And then performed the Twist. So I thought that was amazing, the.

>> Mike: Pipes on that guy. I did not expect the voice to be as booming as it was once he started singing.

>> Darin: Right, right. He got it. He looks amazing. I think he's dying his hair.

>> Mike: Picked a lane and he drove in that lane as fast as humanly possible. That's what that dude did.

>> Darin: But then the biggest thing for me was they closed with Joe Cocker and my God, do I love the music of Joe Cocker. I always have. The tribute to Joe Cocker was insane. Unbelievable. Brian Adams came out and was singing and then Nathaniel Raycliffe, I have heard of him. The Tedeschi Truck Group. Is that the name of them? If you did haven't seen it.

>> Mike: You just gotta watch swims, man.

>> Darin: Yeah, he friggin swims. Yeah, but I watched that and dude, I was, I had tears. I was all choked up and I had the, the goosebumps and everything. So it was a great year for the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Next year they got to bring in Billy Idol.

>> Mike: Only if he gives the rebel yell.

>> Darin: Oh, more, more, more. Yeah.

>> Mike: Every once in a while there's a glitch in the Matrix and I'll have a, like a, like a CD single version of remix of a song, from my youth and I can't find it on the Apple Music. There's a remix of Catch My Fall. Like it's badass. Like it's a badass remix of it. I love that. That might be one of my. That probably is my favorite Billy Idol song.

>> Darin: There was a remix of it on Vital Idol. Yeah, that was the CD that had the the most of the remixes. I do love Catch My Fall. I think my favorite Billy Idol song.

>> Mike: I'm one of two people in the world that likes cyberpunk and I still, I defend that There are, there are parts of the album that I will agree are absolutely, completely ridiculous. But there's other parts that are genius. And I think you got annoyed when we saw them and we had those two, Gen Z kids, whatever they were.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: Right next to us and they mentioned that they like cyberpunk.

>> Darin: My question is, what the hell. Okay, okay.

>> Mike: And you had no idea what to do because you couldn't say these damn kids. Because you're right next to an old Just like you who likes that album.

>> Mike: Right.

>> Mike: So you were just kind of left out in the cold.

>> Darin: I mean, I have it. My favorite Billy Idol song is Blue Highway. Oh my God. I got a Leg crap.

>> Mike: Yeah, I'm downloading it right now.

>> Mike: Are you all right?


I need to download Blue Highway. I need this Blue highway song. I've downloaded Blue Highway

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Oh, is this. Is this a recordable on time ever.

>> Mike: Podcast?

>> Darin: I've got a massive leg cramp.

>> Mike: I have to call osha.

>> Mike: Holy crap.

>> Mike: Now I'm gonna have to upgrade the ergonomics. It's gonna be a whole. This is gonna be a whole thing.

>> Mike: Oh, the show must go on. I need this Blue highway song. Okay, I'm sorry, buddy. I can hear for you, but I need to download Blue Highway.

>> Mike: You need to drink some pickle juice. Yeah, that's what you do. We don't have any pickle juice. I think pickles.

>> Darin: I need you to rub this.

>> Mike: I'm not rubbing anything.

>> Mike: Yeah, rub it.

>> Mike: No.

>> Mike: yeah, rub it. That's what she said.

>> Mike: rub it, rub it.

>> Mike: Use your best technique. Okay. I've downloaded Blue Highway.

>> Darin: Blue Highway.

>> Mike: But have you heard Billy Idol's version of don't you forget about me?

>> Mike: Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's better than the original.

>> Darin: It is. Yeah.

>> Mike: Love it so much.

>> Darin: It is great. That's exactly how that sounds.

>> Mike: I can tell you this. If I'm in a karaoke room and I perform that song, I will be in the top four of the night.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Out of five is number two for sure.

>> Dave: You're listening to the only podcast that matters, Irritable Dad Syndrome with Mike and Darren.


You have a Nine Inch Nails tattoo on your back

>> Mike: So we got to talk about the.

>> Dave: You.

>> Mike: You posted something about 9 inch nails M with,

>> Mike: Oh, my God.

>> Darin: With the tour.

>> Mike: So have you. You've seen them, correct? Like, the most recent tour.

>> Mike: Oh. Oh, yeah. Like. Okay. So, like, I've got a Nine Inch Nails tattoo. Like, I've got on my back a tattoo of 21 of my favorite things. The nine inch nail symbol is in there.

>> Darin: Is it a tramp stamp? That's.

>> Mike: It's not quite.

>> Darin: No.

>> Mike: The good news.

>> Mike: Okay, I got to tell you this. It's offset on my back, and it's a damn good thing, because if it was on set on my back, the way the tattoo goes, it's a Ghostbusters trap. And, it's opening up and, like, is coming out of it, and it's like, all my favorite things.

>> Mike: Where is the trap? Is it right over your crack?

>> Mike: Okay, well, here's the thing. It's offset, offset, offset. It's in the middle of the back, and it goes up, and then it comes over the shoulder. So it's, like, way offset.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Mike: And it includes, like, a crown and a Los Angeles king's crown just under my collarbone with Pharaoh's Ferriero, which is the Chisholm moniker.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Mike: And Pharaoh's Ferriero means I am fierce with the fierce.

>> Darin: yeah.

>> Mike: I mean, yeah.

>> Darin: Duh. yeah. Tell me something I don't know.

>> Mike: Yeah, right.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: But if the tattoo was positioned in the center where the Ghostbusters trap was just above the butt crack.

>> Mike: It would be the most obnoxious tattoo in the history of anchors. But because it's not.

>> Mike: Because it's just not.

>> Darin: No.

>> Mike: Nerdy and about 4% cyberpunk.

>> Darin: Okay, you've got to send us a picture of the tag.

>> Mike: No, you really don't. But here's the thing.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Here's the thing.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Anyway. Oh, sorry. I love.

>> Mike: So you enjoy. You enjoy Nine Inch Nails. Okay. So Nine Inch Nails is one of those bands that I realized I was a fan of long after I was a fan, because I had a, Pretty Hate Machine. Pretty close to when it came out.

>> Darin: Sure.

>> Mike: I had it on cassette tape, and I played it while I was. Was ditching around on the computer. It would just. It was like my background music. And then everyone was excited when CDs happened about Broken. And it took me. It took me a minute to. To connect that this was the same band that did Pretty Hate Machine, you know, or the same dude.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: I don't know. He had like. Like, he moved. Like. Pretty Hate Machine was just basically him.

>> Darin: Yeah. Nine Inch Nails is pretty much Trent Reznor.

>> Mike: Yeah. But so, okay, so that's what it was back then.

>> Mike: Yeah. And it's evolved over the years.

>> Mike: So the. The different people that I meet that are Nine Inch Nails fan. It intrigues me because there's all kinds of different versions of Nine Inch Nails out there. And it amazes me that all of this music comes from that one dude. So you have Pretty Hate Machine, which to me is a Neo in the Matrix. If he were in a band, I think that's the kind of music he would make. You know, I imagine that's. He's got that somewhere.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: That's where that is. And then you go to Neo mixed with a little bit of Slayer.

>> Mike: Hold on, hold on, hold on.

>> Mike: Yeah.


The Downward Spiral is basically two albums combined

>> Mike: so, like, something I could never have, which is one of my favorite slow, haunting songs of all time.

>> Mike: Can't have a real Neo.

>> Mike: Neo not being able to have Trinity. He's got to choose Saving the universe or Trinity.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: And so he's singing something I can never have.

>> Mike: Exactly.

>> Mike: And then for kind of I want to. Or Ring finger could be like, Ring finger could Be like the collision with, like the, the. The buildup to the collision with, with the agent.

>> Mike: Agent Smith.

>> Mike: Oh my God.

>> Mike: I was up to go on Pretty.

>> Mike: Hate Machine and the Matrix. Somebody needs. We need to take this and plug it into AI and we need to make this do a thing because it's going to be amazing.

>> Darin: Yeah, I'm on it.

>> Mike: I'm on it. I was up above it, now I'm down in it. That's the Matrix. That's the entire. That's it.

>> Darin: All right.

>> Mike: He raps in that song.

>> Darin: Ah.

>> Mike: Trent Reznor raps in a lot of like four or five of key songs down in it. He is a good.

>> Mike: Kind of like a cloud. Way up, way up in the sky. I was seeing some things you wouldn't believe.

>> Mike: I want to see the Beastie Boys cover that song.

>> Darin: Beastie Boys.

>> Mike: Beastie Boys cover. The Beastie Boys need to cover.

>> Darin: If Rush. If Rush can move on without Neil. So I think the Beastie Boys.

>> Mike: Here's the deal.

>> Darin: You've got something, but I'm getting off track.

>> Mike: You've got that Nine Inch Nails.

>> Mike: Then you've got. Let's, look at the Downward Spiral. The Downward Spiral is basically two albums combined. You've got Closer, which, you know, you go into a club. Every club.

>> Darin: Can I.

>> Mike: Every clutch. No, every.

>> Darin: Hold on a second. Yeah, it's my podcast too.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Can I say something about Closer? Okay. I was listening and reading the lyrics. That song's kind of dirty. Okay. Have you guys. Have you noticed that I want to eat the honey in your hive? I'm like, hello. Yeah, yeah, got a point there. It's kind of dirty.

>> Mike: So you've got that song that's playing in every club in the 90s at some M. Within 10 minutes of walking into a club, you're going to hear Closer.

>> Darin: And so everything's going to be pregnant.

>> Mike: And then the. The girl with the shooters is coming around. You want to shoot her? I promise.

>> Mike: The California Love by Dr. Dre and Tupac right after. And it's the perfect night.

>> Mike: Yeah. So you've got those music tracks and then you've got the ones where it's like he's strangling a pig in a computer underwater.

>> Darin: Sure.

>> Mike: And screaming. Yeah, right.

>> Darin: Makes sense.

>> Mike: It's. It's all. It's all connected. But then you go to my personal favorite album, the Fragile. Or the Fragile.

>> Darin: The Free. Gili.

>> Mike: Yeah, that's my favorite as well.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: But that one is one of the reasons it's My favorite is because it's an amalgam, as it were, of all those different styles. Plus. Plus his soundtrack sound that he, in my opinion, perfected on the network. Natural Born Killers.

>> Darin: Oh, that's right.

>> Mike: Natural Born Killers is a almost perfect soundtrack.

>> Darin: And he did it.

>> Mike: Is Social Network.

>> Darin: The Social Network, yes.


Mike and Darren are going to see Nine Inch Nails in Cleveland

>> Mike: And, also phenomenal.

>> Darin: That's where he won the Oscar.

>> Mike: Did he do the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo? Was that him as well?

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, they did the.

>> Darin: Are we still talking about the soundtrack?

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Oh, okay.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: And then the Immigrant Song, the. The Nine Inch Nails or, how to Destroy Angels. Did the Immigrant Song. Yeah, yeah. And it was just. No, maybe that's not how to Destroy Angels. By the way, Walter Kim just messaged back. Do we want to. Do we. Are we nervous?

>> Mike: Are we talking to Walter King?

>> Mike: I'm a little nervous. I'm a little nervous.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: I'm sorry. Is that.

>> Mike: Okay, good.

>> Darin: You're good?

>> Mike: You're good?

>> Darin: That is fine.

>> Mike: All right, well, four words. I'll work on it.

>> Mike: Oh, yes.

>> Darin: Hey, does that mean we get a free shirt? It was our idea.

>> Mike: I don't know. Yeah, I. You know what, Darren? I prefer to let the lawyers handle it so we can focus on the creative process.

>> Darin: Like you have a lawyer. Do they have lawyers in Canada?

>> Mike: Yes, but I think they do different things than the ones in the states.

>> Darin: They still wear the white wigs like the colonials did here. George Washington era, Right?

>> Mike: Rarely.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: But yes, to my understanding.

>> Darin: Mike and I, we are going to see Nine Inch Nails, and it's.

>> Mike: There's going to be parts that may or may not be uncomfortable because me and Darren.

>> Mike: Cleveland. Are you going to see him in Cleveland?

>> Darin: Cleveland? Yeah.

>> Mike: When is it?

>> Darin: Is it Cleveland or Columbus?

>> Mike: I think it's Columbus.

>> Darin: It's Columbus.

>> Mike: I think we're going to see Columbus.

>> Darin: It is in.

>> Mike: I'll look up the tickets.

>> Mike: I want to fly out there and go see them with you.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: This is one of the greatest shows I've ever seen. I've seen them so many times. And my very favorite concert experience of all time. The only reason why my very favorite of all time is a little bit ahead.

>> Mike: Columbus.

>> Mike: The Peel It Back tour that I just saw is because of the nostalgia of it.

>> Darin: Oh, yeah.

>> Mike: Because it goes through the entire. It goes through his whole career.

>> Mike: This one here is like the two stages like this, and the one that I like better than it. That I rank it higher. This is a better concert. It's a better concert. It's a better Everything. The technology is crazy amazing. It's like the small stage playing the intimate version of. Starting it off. Playing that intimate version of Ruiner is the most haunting. And then he moved into, Right where it belongs.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: Oh, my God. Me and my best friend are, like, crying. And it's a song and a half into the show and then they, you know, they. They start getting a little bigger and a little bigger. Then they go to the main stage and they kick the. Out of you. And it's like, holy cat low. Just get ready to lock and load, boys. It is.

>> Mike: Oh, I am right.

>> Mike: I wanna. I wanna fly out there and see it. I want to go on the floor.


Mike Chisholm: Top five concert experiences of my life

>> Mike: Oh, we're in the nosebleeds. We're in the back.

>> Darin: Yeah. We're in the tickets you can afford section.

>> Mike: Maybe I'll fly out there and then I'll just. You can, unleash me onto the floor.

>> Darin: Floor.

>> Mike: That would be awesome. But, yeah, we're going to see in February 20th.

>> Darin: The last time I was on a floor for a concert was, what, just a couple months ago when we went to see Devo. And I mean, my God, I was, what, 10ft away from Mark Mother's ball at one point when he. Yeah.

>> Mike: And I. I saw, Oasis, the 2025 Oasis in Chicago. I was about 15ft away from Liam doing.

>> Mike: Are you kidding me?

>> Mike: No. Right. Was it religious?

>> Mike: Was it a religious experience?

>> Mike: It was. It was. It's. It's in the top five concert experiences of my life. And that's. At this point, it's saying something because.

>> Darin: Yeah, I was about to say many. Yeah. After. Ah. You've seen as many shows as we've seen. It's hard to crack that. Yeah, it really is.

>> Mike: It was. It was beautiful. we were close enough to see, Noel, got choked up singing little by little. Because there's. There's the part where it's mostly. No, there's a middle part where it's like three or four Noel songs. Liam just, goes backstage and hangs out and knows out there by himself. And he, I mean, there's video of it. I found a site that has the cd. I'm getting a recording of it, but his voice cracked a little bit, little by little.

>> Mike: Site that does bootlegs like that.

>> Mike: I don't know about a site. I'm in a Facebook group and somebody, you know, every Facebook group has the thing. If you sell something, we're going to kick you out. I just happened to be looking at the group at the exact moment, this dude popped up and said, this is a soundboard recording. It's amazing. If you were in Chicago, you got to get it. And they took it down almost immediately. But, it was there long enough for me to get the link, so I ordered it. It's on the way.

>> Darin: Yeah, I know you're not a fan, and Mike Chisholm, I don't know if you're a fan or not. What's wild about concerts is. Is as many as I've seen. Libby and I went to see Garth Brooks. We finally got tickets to see Garth Brooks.

>> Mike: Oh, good for you.

>> Darin: And that was, camera. How many years ago? But we walked out of there going, well, okay, that's the best concert I'm ever going to see. I can't imagine anybody putting on a better show than Garth Brooks did. He just destroyed the place. And then a month later, I saw you two. The Joshua Tree Tour. Seriously, I literally. The next concert, was it Joshua or was it zoo? It was 20.

>> Mike: 2017.

>> Darin: It was the 25th.

>> Mike: Oh, sorry.

>> Darin: Yeah. 20th anniversary or 25th.

>> Mike: Yeah, 30th.

>> Mike: 30th.

>> Darin: It was the 30th anniversary of the Joshua Tree tour.

>> Mike: I had it.

>> Darin: And that. Okay. I was like, all right.

>> Mike: Not 10 times, not twice. Rice.

>> Mike: So Bess and I went to go see Tears, for Fears.

>> Mike: Rice joke.


Mike: Darren says funny things on the show, but I don't hear them

I can't believe it.

>> Mike: I got it. I see. I have a tendency. Darren says funny all the time. I don't hear it in the show. Then I listen to the episode later, and I'm laughing at Darren, and I didn't even know that he said those things.

>> Darin: And he'll call me up. Hey, by the way, that was funny, something you said three weeks ago. Well, thank you, Mike. Thank you. I appreciate that.


Mikey: Tears for Fears finished their show with Shout Out

>> Mike: So. So my wife Bess and I went to go see Tears for Fears a couple of years ago. And so one of my favorite songs is what? Everybody wants to rule the world.

>> Darin: You know, of course.

>> Mike: And I was so. I wanted to see that. I was a fan of the Elemental album, so. And I knew they played a few songs from that, so it was like, it's Tears for Fears. They're a classic. Let's go see them. We didn't expect to enjoy the entire show, but from the moment they took the stage until the end, we were just enraptured with it. We. It was one of the best shows. And what's crazy to me is he did. They did the, The first song. And I kept thinking, everybody wants to rule the World. That's got to be like the second encore. What they leave with. It was their second song.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: So I almost ruined that song for myself because the entire time they were playing, I was like, what the hell?

>> Mike: Out.

>> Mike: What's. What are they gonna do after this? What is after this?

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And it just kept getting better and better and better.

>> Darin: And that's the testament to a, great band, is when you can open with your hit. Oh, yeah.

>> Mike: Mikey. Did they finish the show with Shout Out?

>> Mike: Yes, they did.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Yeah. To me.

>> Mike: To me, that's the natural one because you get the audience doing some crazy stuff.

>> Mike: It's, a crazy, word.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: and it's a crazy way to, you know, to get out of there. But can you imagine if they finished with Mad World?

>> Mike: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they did.

>> Darin: I mean, I like that song, but what are you guys doing?

>> Mike: Yeah, it's kind of like Nine Inch Nails finishing with Hurt. They finish with Hurt. That's what they finished the show with for years.

>> Darin: When I saw Sammy Hagar, he finished with When It's Love, which I still think is an odd choice to close the show on. Well, I would not have closed with When It's Love.

>> Mike: You too. For a lot of, the zoo TV shows, they close with Love is Blindness. And it's like, well, what? I guess I'll just.

>> Mike: My favorite song of all time, my favorite YouTube song of all time, like, their version of Love is Blindness on the Actung Baby tour is like my favorite.

>> Darin: Oh, yeah.

>> Mike: It's one of my favorite music things.

>> Mike: The sphere. You're talking about the one where they. Where they were in Vegas. Or are you talking about old school? They're old school. Zoo TV tour.

>> Mike: Okay, but remember after he played Can't Help Falling in Love by Elvis.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Which again, one of my favorite versions of that song of all time is them at the, Whatever the video was. The videotape of the entire actual baby. I don't know if it was the Boston show or which show it was, but that version of, Australia, you Can't Help Falling in Love is.

>> Mike: Yeah, I had that on vhs. I wore that out. And, got multiple DVD versions of it, so. Yeah.

>> Darin: So good.


Dave Lay: Are we going back to Canada anytime soon

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>> Darin: So we're gonna shift gears here. I want to tell this.

>> Mike: Are we going back to Canada anytime soon?

>> Darin: we can. Before then.

>> Mike: Is maple syrup. Does it come with every meal? Like, whatever?

>> Darin: You get a moose burger with maple.

>> Mike: Syrup, it's like, like down here, it's. You get ketchup no matter what.

>> Darin: No matter what?

>> Mike: Sure.

>> Mike: It doesn't matter what you order. Someone's gonna give you ketchup. Except, like, Dunkin Donuts is the only place.

>> Darin: All right.

>> Mike: But I just imagine up there, there's like, maple syrup.

>> Mike: Well, it's not to the level of, a Leslie Nielsen movie or anything like that, but I would imagine that per capita restaurants in Canada do probably have more bottles of maple syrup than their American counterparts. So I would, I would say that that is an accurate statement.

>> Mike: I'm going to tell you, I'm going.

>> Mike: To start the comic level.

>> Mike: In all seriousness. That's going to sound like I'm telling a joke, but this is dead serious. And we don't go political, but we dabble a little bit. So me and the family, we went to, we did Disney and part of Universal. And when we went to Epcot, you know, the Epcot center, they have the. What's that? Around the world tomorrow. And sure, we went into Canada. Now, I don't know if you've heard, but things aren't going that great down here in the old United States. And Bess and I were talking. We went to Canada. Less so as a vacation and more so. Let's go get some brochures. Let's see what's going on. And we went. They had a 360 degree video of Canada that was hosted by. What's the guy's name?

>> Darin: Michael J. Fox?

>> Mike: No, no, no, no. He was an score with, John Candy.

>> Darin: Eugene.

>> Mike: Eugene Levy, and the other. The lady, Catherine o'.

>> Darin: Hara.

>> Mike: I said the lady Catherine.

>> Mike: They're on our coins up here.

>> Mike: And they, they, it was, it was a 360 degree movie of going to all the major cities of Canada. And it wasn't even trying to be Disney. It was literally like, look how wonderful this city is. And here's the crime levels. And look at. There's no pollution. Here's a moose. There's maple syrup. Hey, there's nice schools. Hey, we have hospitals if you're hurt.

>> Darin: And you go in.

>> Mike: And so the kids, the kids wanted to go out To a ride after that. And me and best looking at each other like, I. I mean, do you think you could find a job in Canada? I think I could. I think I could. Can we still get our 401k? So get Social Security up there maybe.

>> Darin: Ah.

>> Mike: now, I just. Before I respond, I know you said you don't like to get political, but I just want to say, based on what you just said, I just appreciate the fact that, how brave you are being such. Obviously a massive Trumper. And, you know, so I just want to say you're brave.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And thank you. I know you get political, but what you just said there, clearly.

>> Mike: Yeah, clearly.

>> Mike: you know, very, very much Trump rhetoric.

>> Mike: Yeah. Well, the red backdrop gives it away. I mean, this just screams MAGA right here, you guys.

>> Mike: The irritable dad syndrome, you know, we're red till we're dead. I believe was the.

>> Mike: You know.

>> Darin: I am not handy at all. I mean, I own some tools, but I am not handy.


Tron: We had ugly gold doorknobs. So we were changing them to silver

We have had some things redone in our house. And Libby wanted to change out the doorknobs.

>> Mike: Oh, my God.

>> Darin: Because we had. We had ugly gold doorknobs.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: So we were changing them to silver.

>> Mike: Me and Bess talked about the doorknobs you have at your house.

>> Darin: Yes. I know, right?

>> Mike: We considered not well it was going over there anymore.

>> Darin: It was best. Running her big mouth at book club. That got it into Libby's head. And so now I'm changing doorknobs. So. Thank you, Bess. Anyway, I'm gonna change the doorknobs on the door that goes into our downstairs hall bathroom.

>> Mike: Yeah, that was the worst one.

>> Darin: And Libby, says, actually, if you'll do me a favor, if you can take the door, take it into the garage, I'm going to paint it, and then we can replace it and put the new doorknobs on. I'm like, absolutely.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: So took the door off the hinges. I've got an electric, drill. It's fun. Do you have an electric drill?

>> Mike: maybe.

>> Darin: I love, love my electrical.

>> Mike: I don't have a license for it.

>> Darin: So I don't admit that I took the door off the hinges and we took it to the, garage, and Libby painted it, and then I'm putting it back up into the, hall bathroom. Right. I've done something wrong because I put the door back on the hinges, and now it won't latch.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: It will not latch.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And I'm on Google, and it turns out that it Is misaligned somehow, and I have no idea what to do. And I can't call Chris Michael because I pissed him off last week with the conversation about the aluminum foil.

>> Mike: See, when you said you took, You used a drill.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: It's an electric drill.

>> Mike: I don't know that you need drill. That was good.

>> Mike: I like that noise.

>> Darin: Thank you. Thank you.

>> Mike: You just take the pins out of the hinges, Right. You leave the hinges attached to the door.

>> Darin: Oh, I never thought. Why. Why didn't you come over and do that?

>> Mike: Because I don't do that.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: I don't do anything handy. Look at this place. Anyway, so I put those lights up. That's the most I can do.

>> Darin: I've got.

>> Mike: They're very nine inch nails. They're very nice, Tron.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I've got the door back on the hinges. And now I'm replacing the, the doorknob. This is before I realized that it didn't latch. I'm replacing the doorknob, and I'm at the house by myself, and I take the doorknob completely off. And, So what you do when you're replacing a knob is you put the latch thing in the. The spine of the door, and then you put the back end of the handle through, and then you connect it with the front end of the handle, and then you screw it all together. Yeah. So I'm in the bathroom, and I, I've got the handle on the back where it needs to be. And I close the door, and I'm putting the front. A handle end. And both handles fall on the floor. Yeah. And I'm locked in the bathroom.

>> Mike: You are not handy with a knob. No, I am not.

>> Darin: I was in high school, though.

>> Mike: Yeah. But.

>> Darin: So here I am, I'm stuck in the bathroom, and I. There's no door handle. And I'm like, oh, this is interesting. And if I was, claustrophobic, I would have instantly freaked out and had an anxiety attack. But I was like, this is. How long am I going to be in here? Because Cameron's at work. He wasn't coming home for another four hours. Jacob, who's 21, there's no telling where he is when he's coming home, if ever. And then, I don't know where Libby was probably out drinking. So I was like, how long is it going to be? Anyway, my mom was coming over. She. And I was going to go out to dinner.


I changed the doorknob on our front door and, um, it took way longer

And I could just imagine my mom in the driveway just waiting and waiting and waiting for me to Come out. Anyway, long story short, this ends up.

>> Mike: Being the stupidest first 48 story.

>> Darin: Yes. Yes. I had to stick my finger into the door. Whoa. Wrench it in there a little bit and give it the old college wiggle. And then I used my finger to pick the lock to get out of my locked bathroom. Anyway, I attached the doorknob correctly, but I can't close the door now. It won't latch. It just. You can close the door, but it won't stay shut. And I don't know what to do with it. So because I've not. I. I completely. I screwed this up. It's misaligned somehow.

>> Mike: Like everything else in your life, you need to rely on Mike to do it for you.

>> Darin: That's right.

>> Mike: Yeah. Ah, Mike's not doing it. Yeah, I. I changed. I changed the doorknob on our front door and, it took way longer than it should. Way longer.

>> Darin: Right?

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And then you feel so stupid.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I'm like, it's not supposed to be this hard. That's what she said. But here's what you do.

>> Mike: You hire a cleaning service. You take m advantage of their first half off offer.

>> Mike: And when they arrive, say, okay, yeah, if you can clean up over there, clean up over there. Oh, if you could put that doorknob back on there, that'd be great. Thank you so much.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And then, And then you have them do it for you.

>> Darin: Exactly.

>> Dave: It's time now for an Irritable Dead syndrome.


Mike: I found a very rare Steve Martin album on ebay

Previous story Update foreign.

>> Darin: So, Mike, you bailed on this last week. I did, yeah. Boy, did you miss a fun podcast. Because we talked about Chris Michael and his aluminum foil. And I have an update on. Did you listen to the episode yet?

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: Okay. Neither have I. I found a very rare Steve Martin album. Very rare. It's, ah, I was in this record, store. I. When I was telling the story to Mike, he says, what's the name of the store? And then like an idiot, I completely blanked and I forgot the name of the store. And I don't know why, but it was. It's hey, Suburbia Records and it's in Mason, Ohio, and they've got a ton of vinyl. So I'm going through all the vinyl albums and I found this Steve Martin album. It was the Pennies from Heaven Radio special. It was an hour long radio special that they did to promote the movie.

>> Mike: Wow.

>> Darin: Yeah, right? And at the bottom of the album it says, promotional copy, not for sale. I'm like, it's an industrial musical kinda Yeah, I got really, really excited, and I took a. I bought it and I bought it, and, And I bought it.

>> Mike: What did Young say?

>> Darin: He said it sounded like it looks like a pretty good find you found there. Right. So, bought it for five bucks. I think I found a very, very rare deal. Well, I went on ebay, and you guys will not believe how much this album is worth.

>> Mike: Like, how much?

>> Darin: $5. Right on. Yeah. Somebody tried to sell it on ebay a month ago. It had zero bids. Zero. Nobody wants.

>> Mike: Okay, hold on a second. Like, hold on. Does Steve Young want this thing for his collection?

>> Darin: no. I mean, he didn't say he wanted it, but I took a photo and showed it to him. Because I'm saying, like, I try to. I try to have one that he doesn't have it.

>> Mike: He considers it a. Should buy the one on ebay, is all I'm saying.

>> Darin: Right, right.

>> Mike: That's crazy. Have you listened to it?

>> Darin: To ship it costs more than to buy it. It's 5. $5 for the album, $6 to ship it.

>> Mike: I thought that's the nice thing about Steve Young's, Steve Young's hobby of collecting these things is that when he finds them, like, when I find the action figure that I don't have that I want with the variant or whatever, I'm, like, shelling out hundreds of dollars. When he finds an industrial musical, it ain't expensive. Expensive when he finds it.

>> Darin: Right, right.

>> Mike: You know, it's a. It's a cheap habit, right?

>> Darin: It is.


Mike: I broke international law for you. Yes, you've admitted to it

>> Dave: This has been an irritable dead syndrome. Previous story. Update.

>> Darin: All right, well, Mike, listen, it's a thrill to have you back on the show. Thank you for joining us. We're sorry you couldn't make it last week, but I'm glad we got to have you on this week.

>> Mike: I broke international law for you.

>> Darin: I know you did. Well, I don't know if it's international.

>> Mike: And we documented it, so we were.

>> Mike: We were. We were connected. You're in the U.S. i'm in Canada. That's a clear cut case of. Of breaking international law. When I was, returning your email while driving m. Yes, you've admitted to it.

>> Darin: So the FBI, they're on Interpol, that would come? I think so, yes. The kgb, for some reason.

>> Mike: The Canadian Mounted.

>> Mike: It's a national quagmire. No organization wants to take jurisdiction. It's. It's terrible. I love you guys. I love you guys. I appreciate this so much. This is a lot of fun.

>> Darin: If people want to Listen to the Letterman podcast. How do they find you?

>> Mike: First off, what's the matter with you?

>> Darin: By the way? You did stand up comedy a couple of months ago, and when you walked up there and. And the. The smattering, of applause died down, it was kind of a. Yeah. And somebody else. I love you. And you said, I doubt that.

>> Mike: Yeah, that's right.

>> Darin: It was the first thing. And that was one of Steve. That's one of Steve Martin's rules of stand up is you don't go up and say, hey, how's everybody doing tonight? Your first line shouldn't be, a throwaway. It should be something. So. Yeah, but you're like, I doubt that. But, yeah. where can people find you?

>> Mike: We want to build a community with the Letterman Podcast. Darren Cox, our first guest. Join the Facebook group. Everybody go on and look for the Letterman podcast Facebook group, and everybody join it. Because I want to build a community where we can do something cool.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: But we need, like, 5,000 members. So let's do a membership drive. Come to the Letterman podcast Facebook group, and then we can all do something cool. Yeah. The Letterman podcast is available on YouTube. It's available on the Apple. It's available on the Spotify. and, you can come visit us on the Facebook. And, Yeah. I love you guys.

>> Darin: Yeah, we love you too. We're thrilled to have you.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And, yeah. And so for people listening, if you go to Irritable dad syndrome dot com, you can listen to every episode we have. You can listen to our Best of Volume five, which in my personal opinion, is a banger, and I'm very proud of it.

>> Mike: It's so good. The Carl story, in particular.

>> Darin: Fan of the Carl story.

>> Dave: Oh, no.

>> Mike: Because he told me the Carl story. I'm like, why haven't you put this on the podcast? Or, like, it's the best podcast story ever. It's so good. It's like the. It's like the Lone Ranger story at Christmas time.

>> Darin: Wow. Wow, that. That is saying something. We'd, like to thank everybody for listening, and we hope to see you next week on Irritable Dad Syndrome.

>> Dave: Irritable dad Syndrome was videotaped before a live studio audience.

>> Mike: It's off the tracks already, everybody.

>> Darin: Yes, it is.

>> Mike: You said, yeah, yeah, yeah, while Doofus here was talking. And it didn't do it. So I think we're good.

>> Mike: We did it. I want to be Doofus.

>> Darin: And it was the, the,


Rick: Would it help if you just Started calling me Rick

Now I'm blanking again.

>> Mike: Would it help if you just Started calling me Rick. I understand what you're doing here.

>> Darin: Excuse me.

>> Mike: You okay there, old man?

>> Darin: Yeah, I'm good. How are you?

>> Mike: say san. Say a knock knock joke. Your favorite knock knock joke, Rick.

>> Mike: That'S good enough. Okay, now laugh. Like, laugh like we said something stupid funny.

>> Mike: That's beautiful. And now the bridge is on.

>> Darin: Thank God. That's exactly what this episode needed.

>> Mike: The bridge Mike, is louder. Okay, calm down. Wait, Mike me Mike your. Your beloved Mike?

>> Darin: Or Canada Mike? Or Mike, or our very own Mike.

>> Mike: Is your mom handy?

>> Darin: No, no, she's not.

>> Mike: Oh, no, she's more like. She's handsy.

>> Darin: Hey, hey, watch your mouth.

>> Mike: He likes it.

>> Mike: That's Norm MacDonald doing David Letterman.

>> Darin: That's what that is.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Dave: Hold on. The show's not over yet. Irritable dad syndrome is going into overtime, starting right now.


Dave used to talk about how Nine Inch Nails scared him

>> Darin: Since you're on the Letterman podcast, I'm reminded of, you know, Weezer used to scare Dave, and I think, Megadeth used to scare Dave. But Nine Inch Nails were coming on, and he wouldn't stop talking about how those guys scared him. And then, he had Tom Jones on, and he says, yes, you know Nine Inch Nails, right? And he says, yeah, they're nice guys. And Dave's like, they scare me.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: But here. Okay, so here's the thing with that Nine Inch Nails. I don't know if you remember this, but, like, during the hot years. So Calvert DeForest introduced Nine Inch Nails at Woodstock 94.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: Calvert Forest brought him out. And then for the next week, Dave was like. For the next week, Dave was like, oh, Paul, can we get the Nine Inch Nails? those nine nails, they scare me.

>> Darin: He said.

>> Mike: And they never came on the show.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: And it's something that I was, like, always so, like, oh, man, I wanted to see it so bad.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: Like, when White Zombie showed up and they did, More Human than Human is so good. Nine Inch Nails would have killed it if they would have shown up on it. Played March of the Pigs. absolutely. Like, I mean, you know, the best.

>> Darin: Part about White Zombie coming on Letterman was Whitney Houston was supposed to be the musical guest, and she bailed. For whatever reason, she couldn't come. And I guess White Zombie were next in the phone book. I don't know. And they jumped in a giant bowl of chocolate pudding.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Rob Zombie couldn't jump in that fast enough. He's like, here we go.

>> Mike: And they had it for a bumper, for commercials. They came back for a bumper showing White Zombie all playing in the thing and then it went to a commercial and then it came back and they were still doing it, still in the.

>> Darin: Big bowl of chocolate pudding. That's all I remember it.

>> Mike: Anyway.

>> Darin: It was amazing. It was great. Letterman was always able to get people to do stuff out of their comfort zone.

>> Mike: Recording stopped.