IDS #290 - Smell My Finger

This episode of Irritable Dad Syndrome contains dated references from 2025

>> Dave: This episode of Irritable Dad Syndrome was recorded on December 16, 2025. It contains dated references that may make you think you've traveled back in time. I assure you that's not the case, so calm down, science boy. You're right in the timeline you're supposed to be. We hope you enjoy this episode.

>> Mike: I have no friends. Why are people, like, randomly messaging me right now when I'm trying to run a show?

>> Darin: The only friend you have is Ray.

>> Mike: Sit right there. I know you're not messaging me. The are these people.

>> Darin: How sad is it that I'm the only friend you have? Jeez, that makes me feel sorry for you.

>> Mike: You are these people.

>> Darin: Cuz I'm not even a good.

>> Mike: You should feel sorry. Yeah, you're. I don't even. We don't even. Yeah, we just fight with each other all the time.

>> Darin: Suck.

>> Darin: Hello, my name is Marty Deburghy. I'm a filmmaker.

>> Mike: What do you say?

>> Darin: Let's boogie.

>> Dave: Welcome to Irritable Dad Syndrome. It's time to take down your Christmas decorations. Give it up for your hosts, Mike and Darren.

>> Darin: Hi, I'm Darren. I am Mike. Welcome to Irritable Dad Syndrome systematic comedy podcast. This is episode 290 and it's the first episode of 2026. Welcome to the show.

>> Mike: Yeah, Mike is in an exceptional mood tonight for two reasons.

>> Darin: Oh, my God, are you in a mood tonight?

>> Mike: One is, can you stand this equipment? Can you stand it?

>> Darin: Oh, my God.

>> Mike: I mean, holy Harold Ram. This thing is the bizom. and we've just up to the resolution of our camera. Sit. We got some stuff going on. We.

>> Darin: Yes, yes, we do. For all patrons, for everyone who goes and watches our videos on the youtubes, if you are a patron and you get our uncensored videos and that type of thing. this is, as the kids say, on fleek. Yeah. We have Riz.

>> Mike: Yeah. this is the cat's meow, as it were.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: ah, so that's one thing. And the other thing is I made some, stir fry today, the Sishawan chicken. And occasionally it's met with applause by the family because it's seasoned perfectly.

>> Darin: As soon as I walked in the door.

>> Mike: and other times, you have what we had today. So I was cooking it and I thought, man, this does not have enough spice to it. I really need to put half a bottle more than I normally.

>> Darin: So you did that intentionally.

>> Mike: I was looking for the wetness. I was looking for the moistness of the rice and chicken. coa sha.

>> Darin: I'M looking for the wetness.

>> Mike: There it was. Mike said, and I got the wetness. Oh, I got it. Oh, it was right there. but, man, you take a bite of that.

>> Darin: I was making breakfast the other day, and whenever I scramble eggs, I put spinach, I put some cheese. I mix the cheese in with the eggs when I whip it up there. And then, I put garlic, salt and onion salt in my eggs. Ah, yeah. So I went to put the garlic salt in there. The wrong end of the thing came, open.

>> Mike: Blop.

>> Darin: Oh, my God. So much garlic salt. And I didn't want to waste eight eggs. I didn't want to waste all the cheese. I didn't want to waste all the spinach and the Pam that I used to spray the pan. You don't want to waste Pam?

>> Mike: No. No.

>> Darin: So everybody comes down, and I told Libby and I told Cameron, daddy accidentally put too much garlic salt. I don't know if it's salvageable. I don't know if we can actually eat it, but good luck. And they both said, yeah, that's a.

>> Mike: Lot of garlic salt.

>> Darin: Yeah. but it wasn't so much that we had to throw it out.


Jacob came down later because he was in a very mild coma

Anyway, Jacob came down later because, he was in a very mild coma. When breakfast was served, we finally got him out and downstairs. But I was like, don't tell Jacob. So we're all just staring at him, waiting for him to take the first bite. And he's like, what's going on here? Anyway, he takes a bite, and then he takes another bite, and then he takes a third bite. And finally Libby said, don't you notice anything? And he said, and I quote, I didn't want to be mean. Yeah, he was trying to be nice to me.

>> Mike: Trying to be nice.

>> Darin: Yeah. So thank you, Jacob. It's a good kid.

>> Mike: So this.

>> Darin: That's a good son.

>> Mike: Buddy best took the first bite of this. And she said, and I quote.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And I. I almost choked to death on it as well. I mean, good, Lord. So, I. I'm. I need to calm down on the spices, so I have that.


This is the last show that we're recording of the calendar year

And then it's the. It's the last show that we're recording of the calendar year.

>> Darin: I hope that our fans don't mind how we did it this year, but normally, you know, Mike and I have plans. We do things with our family lives. Sometimes we go away for Christmas. Sometimes we have people come and see us. Sometimes we just want to sit in our Christmas pajamas and eat fudge and drink root Beers.

>> Mike: We just want to eat an entire pumpkin pie and wake up, in our Jammy Jams.

>> Darin: Yeah. So what we did was we recorded a lot of stuff in advance. Yeah. The episode that ran right before New Year's was all stuff that was recorded over the past two or three months. Because I don't know if you guys have noticed this, but our episodes used to be over an hour right here. Lately, they're clocking in at between 50 and 55. And what I've been doing is if we go over an hour, I will take a segment and then I will save it for later. It's in my rainy day folder. And. What? There's a,

>> Mike: God.

>> Darin: A couple of months ago, we had completely stopped the podcast, and then Mike starts talking about playing Call of Duty with this guy who sounds like Sylvester the Cat grinding the camos. M. Yeah. With Sylvester, bitches. Yeah.

>> Mike: I forgot my name.

>> Darin: And that was. It was epic. And it's like, why am I not putting this in the episode? and I'm saving it for another episode. So that's what we did.

>> Mike: Darren and I and Jason Durbin.

>> Darin: Ah.

>> Mike: A friend of the show. Dear friend of me and Darren.

>> Darin: Oh, yeah.

>> Mike: We went to go see the Shining in theater in glorious imax. And I. Let me tell you, I forgot how.

>> Darin: Big the IMAX screen is.

>> Mike: Ah. It felt like you were in the freaking Overlook Hotel. It felt like you were there. We'll talk about that for a bit. And I want to talk about how Future Mike, views the show. Okay. I wanted to kick out things off with that because, if I don't, it's a portion where I'm going to be nice.

>> Darin: Okay.


If you don't treat your CBD correctly, it can become toxic

>> Mike: All right.

>> Darin: I'm going to talk about my wife. And I tried to find CBD balm, and it didn't. we. The results, were not what we hoped for.

>> Mike: If you don't treat your CBD correctly.

>> Darin: That's right.

>> Mike: You need to balm it.

>> Darin: That's right. Absolutely.


Legendary director, actor, producer, filmmaker Rob Reiner was murdered yesterday

So, like Dave Lay mentioned at the beginning of the podcast in the disclaimer, this episode was recorded December 16, 2025. And Mike and I learned yesterday that legendary director, actor, producer, filmmaker, Rob Reiner, he and his wife were murdered. And I'm sick over this. I am saddened. I'm mortified. I genuinely loved the work of Rob Reiner. I grew up watching him on all, in the Family. He was meathead, and he was. He said one time, he says, one of these days, if they ever give me a Nobel Prize, they're going to say in the Nobel Prize goes to Meathead. Because people always called him that. And he didn't care, which I love, because I'm like, look, you're known for something that people love. Why would you be upset that they continue to call you Meathead? Yeah, but he won two primetime Emmy awards for his work on all in the Family. And what a great show on the Family was. My God, him and Artsy Bunker fighting all the time. They don't make television shows like that.

>> Mike: He basically created the fake documentary.

>> Darin: He absolutely did.

>> Mike: This is Spinal Tap.

>> Darin: Yeah. He left the all in the Family, and the first thing he did was he directed this is Spinal Tap, the mockumentary.

>> Darin: Hello, my name is Marty Deburghy. I'm a filmmaker. I make a lot of commercials. That little dog that chases the covered wagon underneath the sink, that was mine. In 1966, I went down to Greenwich Village, New York City, to a rock club called the Electric Banana. Don't look for it. It's not there anymore. But that night, I heard a band that, for me, redefined the word rock and roll. I remember being knocked out by their exuberance, their raw power, and their punctuality. That band was Britain's now legendary Spinal Tap.

>> Darin: And, oh, my God, this one goes to 11. You know, there's so many incredible, quotable, legendary parts of that movie. you know, I don't know what your 10 favorite movies are, but two of my top 10 favorite movies of all time were directed by Rob Reiner. You got the Princess Bride. I can watch the Princess Bride a thousand times and never get tired of it. Yeah. And then there's When Harry Met Sally.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Okay? And I know you people are all looking at me thinking, darren, you're a badass. You are as macho as can be. And it's true. I am macho. I am a badass. I don't take from people. Not a bit. I am tough as nails, Okay? I eat punks like you for breakfast. I chew nails and I leather. I'm a badass, okay? But when I watch When Harry Met Sally.

>> Darin: I sob like a girl who got stood up on her prom, okay? And after I watch When Harry Met Sally, it makes you want to curl up and take a bubble bath and drink some wine and read a good book and light candles and. My God, I got to edit that out of the podcast. Dude, I love When Harry Met Sally. And Rob Reiner is the reason, one of the reasons why that movie was so amazing.

>> Mike: did you know that Castle Rock Entertainment was his company. That was his thing. So. Yes, I just learned that yesterday.

>> Darin: Yeah, I was watching an interview with him on, that sports guy. What's his face? He used to be on espn. So Rob Reiner did Misery, and Stand By Me. Okay. And both of those are based on writings from your favorite author, Stephen King. And then Castle Rock Entertainment did. I think. I think he said 9 Stephen King, adaptations.

>> Mike: For a while, I thought Castle Rock was a, Stephen King studio. I honestly did. I mean, the. Obviously meathead, all in the Family, the straight guy and the Spinal Tap. Everybody else is going insane. He basically plays the straight man in that movie.

>> Darin: Yeah, yeah.

>> Mike: And does it perfect. That's one of the things that I loved so much about when he would act in movies. He had that down perfectly, the, the serious stare while someone else is acting the fool. So all in the Family did that all the time. Did it in Spinal Tap. It's not really called out, but one of my favorite roles of his is in the Wolf of Wall Street.

>> Darin: Oh, yeah.

>> Mike: As the father when he's walking in and Leonardo and all the guys are going to play a joke on him. The way he loses his mind and starts cussing everybody. I mean, it's just. It's.

>> Darin: I know.

>> Mike: It's so awesome.

>> Darin: I know.


Rob Reiner passed away at 78 on Sunday

>> Mike: And he had so much more left in him, you know? So I,

>> Darin: Mean, look, he was 78. Okay. Yeah.

>> Mike: Ah. But.

>> Darin: And he showed. I mean, okay, yeah, his, his hair was. His beard was completely white.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: But he showed no signs of slowing down.

>> Mike: It's like Mel Brooks. Mel Brooks is what, like 150 at this point?

>> Darin: And he's.

>> Mike: He's doing Spaceballs too. And there's. There's production pictures of the final day of filming the Spaceball 2. And he's in it. He's in all the pictures. And he looks just. He doesn't look. He looks like he's always looked.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And I, I've always. Well, I, I had up until this point seen Rob Reiner is going to be one of those guys that would just be here forever. I know, like Scorsese, you know, the. The ones that just kind of continue to produce awesome stuff and stuff with the, with the heart. so I'm gonna try to not get misty out here. But he, he has a bit of whatever. Whatever it is that John Candy had. You could tell before John Candy came on screen that he was in a movie.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: You know what I mean?

>> Darin: I do.

>> Mike: and Rob, all of Rob Reiner's movies were like that, they had that little bit of heart that, that he, that he brings to it.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: kind of like the, the little twinge of CG tells you, oh, I'm watching a Marvel movie. There was a little bit of heart that tells you you're watching a Rob Reiner movie.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And it's, you know, so I mean what we have now is the, the body of work that's left there. I've been planning for years. I like we, we opened this segment up. I'd never watched all in the Family. I mean I saw it when it was on, but I never sat down and watched the episode. I think I was a little too young for it when it was on.

>> Darin: Those episodes still hold up.

>> Mike: I've been, I've been planning on going back and, and watching the. Going to be It's a little bit different.

>> Darin: Well, it's going to be harder to watch because yeah, his so on all in the Family, he and Archie Bunker were absolute polar opposites. They fought all the time. All the time. Archie was on one end of the spectrum and Meathead was on the other end of the spectrum. And God did they argue. And fought and fought and fought and fought and fought. And the last episode when Gloria and Mike and. I don't want to spoil it for you.

>> Mike: Oh yeah, I've seen it. I've seen that. The scene that you're.

>> Darin: When they move out of the house and when he says goodbye to Archie. I mean, I'm sorry. Yeah. But it was, it was so emotional and he just, he just brought, made Archie speechless which nobody else could do. And anyway, my point is I thought Rob Reiner was amazing and somebody, one of the critics put him in the same group of directors as like Steven Spielberg and Ron Howard. Yeah.

>> Mike: Ron Howard's another guy. You can tell it's a Ron Howard movie.

>> Darin: Exactly. And in that, you know, it's like. And the way he compared them was that, you know, people say, what are your favorite movies? And they read this, this, this, this and this. And so many of people's favorite movies are either Ron Howard film, Steven Spielberg film or a Rob Reiner film.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: So, yeah. And it's so sad how he passed. M is murdered, but it's just sad and it breaks my heart. And the world was a better place with Rob Reiner in it.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I wanted to capture the, the sights, the sounds, the smells of a hard working rock band on the road. But I got more, a lot more. But hey, enough of my yakkin.

>> Mike: What do you say? Let's boogie. Can we switch gears? Just. We can't.

>> Darin: We can switch gears, please.


Darren: I think I've figured out what I need to improve podcast performance

>> Mike: I do. I. I have something that's been, bubbling here for a while on the show. A little bit of tension.

>> Darin: I want to get it out between me and you.

>> Mike: no. Oh, good. Between me and the show.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: and it's. You know, we've talked about it before, but I want to. I think I figured out what I need to do to improve my performance on the show.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: And that is get a time machine.

>> Darin: Can I write some things?

>> Mike: You can. You can. You can feel free. I have a feeling that we're going to agree on a number of the things.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: you know, one of the things, in all truth is to actually write down my ideas, because how many times have we sat down to do a podcast? And I've said, darren, I have the best idea. This is a banger. You don't even have to say anything. I've got it. And you're like, what is it like? I don't know. I didn't write it down. So today, my story. I wrote things down. And this is just one day. This is one day of stuff.

>> Darin: I'm proud of you.

>> Mike: So don't. Don't judge.

>> Darin: Well, no, I. Thank you. I appreciate you doing that.

>> Mike: One of the things I wrote down, and it occurred to me on the drive in, I was listening to our podcast. Right.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And you said some funny.

>> Darin: Thank you.

>> Mike: But I didn't hear it. I'm in the room with you, so you never.

>> Darin: I don't, hear it as I'm doing it. Yeah.

>> Mike: And I don't know if it's because I'm concerned that I'm going to screw something. I think that's a big piece of it. I'm thinking about my next bit, or I'm thinking about getting to the part that I think is funny. And you're zinging them in sideways. And part of my brain is like, yeah, Darren, just got one in there. But if I take the time to stop and laugh at it, I'm going to forget where I'm going. And the whole rest of the show is going to be like, it's going to be one of those episodes. And you guys, longtime listeners, you know the ones, just sort this podcast out by episodes that are like, 39 to 40 minutes long. Listen to one of them.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: that was an hour and a half of talking. We had to. When you took down all the we could, we could only get about 38 minutes of content. Right. So I'm trying to avoid shows like that. I gotta get to the, I get to the pay dirt. Right.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: so I miss a lot of things and I will laugh an appropriate amount of laugh. In my car a month after you said the thing that made me laugh. So I thought the way to combat that. And I've also a cool thing. One of the cool things and try it at home, kids, is start your own podcast and then listen to yourself. Talk to somebody on the podcast a month later and you'll think, oh, this guy should say this. And you're talking about yourself and you say that thing. But occasionally you don't. And occasionally I'm yelling at me. Future Mike is yelling at past Mike. You didn't. A, you didn't get Darren's joke. You just let it slide by and he probably hurt his feelings. B. no. Nobody wants to hear this story about bono for the 15th time.

>> Darin: We haven't mentioned them in a long time, by the way.

>> Mike: C, is there any way you could stop saying and, and repeating the first three words of every sentence five times before you get that sentence out? Could you stop that? I say that to myself because I know you catch as many of these things as you can. I do, but dear Lord, there's so many fish in the sea and nets are only so big. You're not a miracle worker. Right.

>> Darin: And by the way, I do that to myself also. Yeah, I edit out my, and I edit out my, my, my, my, my when I start a word and, and, and, and I do all that, I edit those out.


If we rehearse the show, the general quality would skyrocket

>> Mike: Now if we rehearse the show, the general, if we rehearse, the general quality would skyrocket. However, I think we would lose something in the process. And here's what I'm talking about is when I watch some of these, the late night monologues and all that, a lot of them is packaged and you can tell the audience is told to laugh at certain times.

>> Darin: Well, they have scripted, they have the.

>> Mike: Applause and Hoopty the clown runs out and does his thing.

>> Darin: I love Hoopty.

>> Mike: I love him so much. And some of my favorite parts of this podcast, and I'm not beating the table yet, I'm tapping it. I'm tapping. Some of my favorite parts of this podcast are when the things just kind of emerge. Yeah. And the genuinely funny stuff happens. And I will call into, two of them, One from me and one from you. well, and One for both of us. One for both of us is the Loch Ness monster.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: Who the hell saw that coming?

>> Darin: Nobody. It stood above it looking down with these big red eyes. Oh, it was so scary. And I yelled, I said, what do you want from us, monster? And the monster bent down and said, I need about three fittings.

>> Mike: and one you threw out. Bono is your lord and savior. Almost killed me. Almost killed me. and then, I think one of my claim to fames is the giant eagle cake.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: I didn't know where that story was going to go. I was literally just telling a story. Ends up being one of our. Our top fans favorite stories. Things like that wouldn't be as raw and good as they currently are if we rehearsed. Well, just maybe they would be better. I don't know.

>> Darin: Just a couple of weeks ago, you had the story about Frank's deer urine.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: That just popped into your head.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Right?

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And I swear, I'm pretty sure that's going to make it on the Best of Year six.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I'm sitting there editing that, that audio podcast in my living room, just cackling. And my wife's like, is everything okay in there? Like, yeah, yeah, we're all good. Yeah.


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There are times when I listen to the podcast a month after it's out

Now back to you guys in the studio.

>> Mike: No, I. In all seriousness, I do enjoy being on the podcast. it is weird. you do an excellent job in editing. But there are times when I listen to the show, and I usually listen a month after it's out. Today was a weird day. I listened on the day that it came out. But for the most part, I wanted to let you know that when I miss laughing here. me. And it's usually when we're on a road trip, we listen to the show. Me best. And the kids are. Well, they're not laughing. They're listening to their own stuff. but me and Bess are cackling and I've come into the House while Bess is listening to the show and she's laughing at the stupid things you say.

>> Darin: Oh, well, I appreciate it. Yeah. I can't listen to the podcast with my family anymore. We will be in the car and you will say something, and Libby will ask me, did he really do that? Did he do that? Is that true? And then she'll say, what did Mike do? And then if I don't answer her, she'll, what did he do? Okay, he's. And then most of the time, I.

>> Mike: Did do those things.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: And then I embellish.

>> Darin: Right. And I say, yes, he did to a point. Yeah. And then you'll start laughing on the podcast and, Libby's like, wait, what did you say? Oh, I said, okay, because you missed. Right?

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And then, like, the kids will jump in and ask daddy, what was. What did Uncle Mike say? And then I'll tell him or whatever. And then they start having their own conversation, about what's going on. And they're not listening to it at all.

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: So I get. I was like, fine. Because is it too much for you to pay 100% attention to everything I say? And 100%. That's all I asked.

>> Mike: I had a weird thing happen to me this morning.

>> Darin: What's that?

>> Mike: Let me ask you this.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: have you ever, left your fly down and walked around in the cold? Probably left the barn.

>> Darin: Barn door open, wide open. Yeah.

>> Mike: And the chicken's hanging out, and it's colder. Nice out there.

>> Darin: I've never had my chicken hanging out. Okay. Although my chicken won't come out of the barn. So sadly, we.

>> Mike: We've had this argument. how long have we known each other? Two, three years. We've had this argument.

>> Darin: We've done the podcast for five. So.

>> Mike: Yeah, we didn't. We. We haven't met yet.

>> Darin: I think we've known each other for 12 years.

>> Mike: I think that's right. That's. It's basically since the boys are in kindergarten. Yeah. Oh, my God. From the beginning. From the beginning. I mean, our first discussion. M. Had to do with your YouTube. I had to set you straight on some things.

>> Darin: Boy, you're so pissed.


You refuse to wear a belt because it keeps your pants from falling down

>> Mike: But probably the second, if not third, thing we talked about is you refuse to wear a belt.

>> Darin: Yes, I do. I refuse.

>> Mike: And I think about that more than I should. And I tell you this. I'll tell you why I always am terrified that I'm going to forget my belt. I'm gonna leave it at home or leave it somewhere.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: And it's just a pain in the ass because your pants are falling down the hall day. And then I get mad at you because you don't have that problem. The only other person I've seen on the planet that doesn't wear a belt is Brad Pitt. And you're not Brad Pitt.

>> Darin: No, you're not. It pisses me off when people are like, hey, Brad Pitt, sign this. I'm like, I'm not Brad Pitt.

>> Mike: But here's the thing. I forgot my belt today. I had no belt. And it's cold out there.

>> Darin: And the belt doesn't keep you warm.

>> Mike: No, but it does cinch your pants up, and keep the cold air, from going down and around Mr. Jimmy. And when I was walking into work this morning, the air hit Mr. Jimmy, the air cut to it, and I thought my barn door was open. And then I almost dropped my backpack in the parking lot because I had to check, you know, do the old, you know, the old check, you know, side door, make sure the, gate's closed.

>> Darin: You know what I mean? Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

>> Mike: So then I, I, I checked and everything was shuttered properly for the winter. I go back to walking, and another breeze came. It went down through the front and aerated my eaves. And I, I had to check again.

>> Darin: Now, now where are you going commando?

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: Then what?

>> Mike: No, I don't know. I, I'm not a, a meteorologist. I don't know how this stuff works. All I know is that I was checking myself way more times than is recommended by HR in the parking lot.

>> Darin: Mike, can you come to my office, please?

>> Mike: So not only is a belt important for comfort, it's important for me maintaining employment. that could have gone really bad. And I got mad at you. I got mad at you when I finally got into the building and Jack Frost quit fondling my nuts. When that stopped happening and I was in the building. Uh-huh. I was angry with you because I bet Darren's never had that problem. I bet he just walks around all the time, doesn't care if his, if his drawers drop or what happens. Doesn't have wind blowing through the eaves. Doesn't care, just does whatever. And then I thought, oh, no, he doesn't. He just gets in his jammy pants, he goes down and he sits in front of his computer, and then, oh, he has to drive somewhere. Where's he got to drive? He got to drive. Or do this podcast.

>> Darin: Yeah, yeah.

>> Mike: Or to Kroger.

>> Darin: I don't even know where my belt is.

>> Mike: We have multiple belts. In case I lose one.

>> Darin: I don't understand the whole. My pants fall down. Do you not buy pants that fit you?

>> Mike: No. What then they don't fit that way.

>> Darin: What do you mean they don't fit that?

>> Mike: How do you. How do you do you.

>> Darin: How. I don't care. This isn't rocket science. You buy a pair of pants that fit and then you put them on, you button them and you zip them. And then you walk around your day.

>> Mike: I don't think I'm in the minority of people, when I say I,

>> Darin: I don't think you're in the minority of anything. But no, my pants do not fall down and I don't wear a belt. And I certainly don't wear a belt with shorts.

>> Mike: The point of the story is I spent way too much time pissed at you this morning. And you.

>> Darin: No reason, nothing.

>> Mike: But I'll tell you, I'll tell you this. That's what caused me to remember to write down.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Because I thought I'm not forgetting this.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: I'm gonna talk to this man about this today.

>> Darin: Pissed at you because I didn't wear a belt.

>> Mike: That's right.

>> Darin: Okay. This is the start of, what's gonna happen when you and I are in the same home. That's right. Yeah.

>> Mike: I'm gonna be out there. You're gonna think it's funny to steal my belt. Old man Odell's belt went down there. You send one of your years older than you send one of your grandkids or great, get in there and get, get Michael's belt.


Grandkids could accidentally kill me in the home, Mike Odle suggests

And they'll steal the wrong belt.

>> Darin: they'll unplug your machine. Is this his belt?

>> Mike: That would be the best way to go right there is have your grandkids it up and actually accidentally kill me in the home. That would be.

>> Darin: And then your tombstone here's here lies Mike Odle. He's wearing a belt.

>> Mike: Damn it. I am seriously considering putting it into the will that someone has to put a fart box in my coffin and push the button every few minutes during the.

>> Darin: Did you pay for that? Go ahead and put that anywhere.

>> Mike: Or a duck quack.

>> Darin: That would be good. Oh, that'd be great.


Libby has very bad rheumatoid arthritis. So her wrists are killing her

I mentioned at the beginning of the show that, Libby and I were looking for CBD balm. Now why were we looking for CBD bomb?

>> Mike: Going to a little new Pink Floyd.

>> Darin: Album kind of personal situation. Okay. Libby has very bad rheumatoid arthritis.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: And, the medication that they had her on really wasn't doing what it needed to. And then they're put her on another medication, and that's not doing anything what it's supposed to do. And you have to be on a certain medication for enough time for them to rule out that this isn't working. Yeah. So her wrists are killing her. If thoughts and prayers are one of your things. If you could keep my wife in your thoughts and prayers because she has very, very, very bad wrist pain. Anywho, I've got a buddy who had really bad sciatica and he said he put CBD balm on his. On his hip there.

>> Mike: The cbd.

>> Darin: Cbd, that's the cannabis.

>> Mike: Cannabis by.

>> Darin: By documentary.

>> Mike: Documentary.

>> Darin: Yeah. Cannabis by documentaries. So he put CBD balm on his hip and he said that did the trick.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: I'm like, well, let's give it a try. Yeah. So I got on the Google and I'm looking up cannabis dispensary near me.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: And it sends me the address of where this place is. There's only like three miles away. so we're going to.

>> Mike: Or you could call doordash and Kyle can bring it.

>> Darin: They're all named Kyle.

>> Mike: They.

>> Darin: They're all named Kyle. We're driving down there, and this is right when this big ass, snowstorm was starting. As. Just as soon as the snow starts to hit, people start freaking out. They're like, where's my belt?

>> Mike: We've gotta go buy, a spare belt.

>> Darin: So it's snowing. It starts snowing harder and harder and harder. And we're driving. Take a left at this light. Okay. Turn right into this parking area. We turned into the shopping area where it is. There was a Chinese restaurant. Perfect place right next door to it.

>> Mike: Twin dragon.

>> Darin: It was not a twin dragon.

>> Mike: New China, house.

>> Darin: It was the. It was the China Dragon. And, so we're driving around in the building behind where the China restaurant was. The Chinese restaurant. It looks like an apartment building. I'm m. Like, this doesn't look right at all. And, there's nobody else in the parking lot.

>> Mike: We're Crockett and Tubbs in a Ferrari.

>> Darin: There was no Ferrari.

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: No Maserat. There was no, no Mustang. Yeah, yeah. There weren't. Wasn't even a Corvette.

>> Mike: There was Seth Rogen there.

>> Darin: He was not. Okay. No, no. Which is a good thing. He wasn't because he would have smoked and eaten all of the CBD bomb. So I'm like, let me Go in and see if this is actually the place, because the address and everything matched up. I go in, and it's a lot of, doctor's, offices. Oh, okay. Oh. So on the outside, it looks like an apartment complex. On the inside, they got that thing on the wall that's covered in glass so that you don't, steal the letters on the black pegboard.

>> Mike: Yeah. They. They call that a front.

>> Darin: It was a front. So I see where it says room 204. I am not stupid. I know that if it's room 204, that means it's on the second floor.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: So I go up the steps. By the way, there's nobody.

>> Mike: Uh-huh.

>> Darin: At all in this building. Uh-huh. But there's, room numbers and titles for every room in the building.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I go up the stairs, and then this thing says 217, 218, 216 to the left, 200 to 200, whatever to the right.


Back in the day, Olivia hated new restaurants. This may surprise you

So I go to the right. Yeah. Because it's room 200.

>> Mike: Typically, the odd numbers are down one side and the even numbers.

>> Darin: Exactly. And I'm walking there. 201, 202. Here we go. 204. I open the door, there's nothing in there. There's M. No furniture. There's.

>> Mike: Did you feel like Joe Pesci and, Good, good, fellas. Like, he walked into a room. It's like.

>> Darin: I was like, no, there's nothing there.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Why is there. And on this. On the door, it says.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: Why do they have a sign on the door when there's nothing in the room?

>> Mike: Not even a kimono or somebody in dreadlocks. Nothing, nothing, Nothing.

>> Darin: No furniture, nothing. I'm like, well, I'm not gonna get any CBD bomb here.

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: So with tears in my eyes, I left the building. And Libby was out in the car. And we were gonna try and go to another place, but the other place on the GPS was a, 29 minute drive.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: Which is about a half hour. And I was like, well, we're not gonna do that because it's. Because this. The big snowstorm came.

>> Mike: Olivia, I'm sorry you're in pain, but I'm not gonna drive 29 minutes.

>> Darin: Well, it's the big snowstorm. Yeah.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: Don't make me into the. Yeah. We got, like, eight inches of snow.

>> Mike: We did.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: It was brutal.

>> Darin: So, anyway, we're gonna try and find, cbd. Ah. Somewhere else.

>> Mike: There was a restaurant there called the Pasta Wagon Garden.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Back in the day, back in Bess and I lived in apartments back there.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: And Bess loved to eat at new restaurants. And one of the things that I hated, hated was new restaurants. Because I think about what it is that I want to eat, and then I pick the place that is. Has that thing and then go there.

>> Darin: Yeah. Right.

>> Mike: Sounds like I would like a quarter Pounder. So I'm gonna go to McDonald's.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: I couldn't think of anything that the pasta wagon would have, so I was already.

>> Darin: you.

>> Mike: This may surprise you. I was already in a mood. Oh. and Bess was excited because she wanted to go to a new place. And I'm trying not to be a wet blanket on this whole thing, but I was like, okay, we'll go in there. And they did not finish microwaving my meal because I ordered ravioli, and it was like it was ice on the inside. And I had made a joke, that they. It's probably just microwave. they probably just go over to Kroger here because it's right across the street from Kroger.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And they probably just, like, get things in microwave. She's like, we could do this every time we go to a new place and show.

>> Darin: Enough. You were right.

>> Mike: I was right. And, I will say that Pasta Wagon was in business probably, two or three months after that.

>> Darin: Thanks.

>> Mike: Pasta Wagon brought that up for a decade after it happened.

>> Darin: I love how and married couples do this. It's not Bess's fault they microwave the food. It's not Bess's fault they named it the Pasta Wagon. No, it's not Bess's fault that he was in that part of town.


No, but you love bringing up. Oh, that time we went to the Pasta Wagon

No, but you love bringing up. Oh, that time we went to the Pasta Wagon.

>> Mike: it's unfair. Unrelated. But that doesn't stop me. No, I still bring it up.

>> Darin: It's because she wanted to go there.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: So it's her fault.

>> Mike: It is.


Dave Ley's son Jacob has been helping him lose weight

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>> Darin: hey, guys.

>> Dave: You left the music on again.

>> Darin: My son Jacob, who I mentioned earlier. Good kid. He has been working out a lot. Okay. He's been going to the gym. He's, He's got exercise equipment downstairs, so he has been, vigilant. I mean, he has been very, very good about doing this. And he is watching his diet. He eats eggs, like, one of the only things. He doesn't eat raw eggs. But he eats like, I'm hungry. He goes and he fries, like, three or four eggs.

>> Mike: There you go, right? There you go.

>> Darin: And so he went downstairs and he's like, I'm gonna go work out. And I said, hey, buddy, can I work out with you? He said, absolutely. I said, jacob, will you help me? Yeah, because I won't do this on my own. I need somebody to make me do this. I said, can you work out an exercise plan for me and help daddy stop being a fat slob? And he says, dad, you're not that bad. I'm like, thank you, but I am. I want to lose weight. I want to do better. And if you help me, then that will make me continue to do this. So we have been working out together, right?

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: So he has set up a plan. I'm, work. I'm doing mild weightlifting right now, building up some push ups, some sit ups. You know what, I get dizzy when I do sit ups, when I lean all the way back and then come up the blood or whatever. Yeah, I did 15 sit ups yesterday, and I was dizzy AF, for the rest of the night. Okay, that's not part of the story. So he says, dad, we're gonna do some cardio. We got the treadmill. We moved the treadmill out.

>> Mike: You have a treadmill?

>> Darin: Oh, yeah, yeah, we got a treadmill.

>> Mike: I didn't know you had a treadmill.

>> Darin: Oh, yeah. You've never seen it? You don't come over my house.

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: So he sets me up on the treadmill and he says, okay, you're gonna run 20 minutes and let's get you at. Ah. He put me, like, at a three speed. Okay. Okay. And then I'm. I'm, not running, but I'm fast walking on the treadmill, building up a sweat. And he says, okay, we're gonna go up to 3.2. And he brings it to 3.2. Okay, we're gonna do this for a couple minutes. And,

>> Mike: Did you want. Yeah, I do rebuild them.

>> Darin: Yeah, we. We can. Yeah. So he says, I'll be right back. And he goes into the unfinished part of our basement, and I, I dropped the speed. He comes back in and he says, dad, you're doing great. And, we're gonna go two more minutes, and then what you're gonna do is you're gonna put that back where I had it. He says, I can hear, dad. I'm like, you can't hear anything else. I do. What was that, dad? So he's been helping me.

>> Mike: You got called out.

>> Darin: I got called out. He is teaching me these nice, Well, not. They're nothing. There's nothing nice about it. Yeah. the only thing I'm enjoying is this time I'm bonding with my kid.

>> Mike: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: But, you know, that's good. These stretches.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And these, different ways to lift weights and. And that type of thing. So I'm trying very hard. I'm not trying as hard as I can, but I'm trying harder than I have in the past, I'll tell you that.


Mike: I'm addicted to TikTok. Serm is on TikTok

Yeah, he could tell. Totally tell. That I was cheating on the, On the old, treadmill.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: You're on TikTok, right?

>> Mike: Yeah, I am. We. We are.

>> Darin: Well, yeah. Irritable dad. Serm is on TikTok. But I'm addicted to TikTok.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I have trouble falling asleep at night. And what, I'll do is I'll. The kids call it Doom scroll, but I scroll through TikTok for maybe, I don't know, five or 10 minutes and helps me go to sleep at night. So I've started watching. And I don't know how this popped up on my phone on my TikTok, because I wasn't searching it, but I have discovered Outdoor Boys. Okay. and then Outdoor Boys was huge forever ago on YouTube. And it's a guy who goes. And he. He extreme camping. He extreme camps. He camps to the extreme. He's like Vanilla Ice to the extreme.

>> Mike: Right.

>> Darin: But camping out in the cold. Okay. Like, negative 20, negative 22, negative 26. Sometimes he camps without a tent. Sometimes he camps without a sleeping bag. Sometimes. And almost every time, he camps without his sanity. And this guy, I mean, I have mad respect for him. Mad respect. But I would never in a million years go and do this, because the last time you and I camped with the Scouts, we were in a yurt. I can't. If you don't know what a yurt is, Google it.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Go on wikipedia. Go to yurt.com.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I went home, and I felt like I had been hit with a Mack truck. Yeah. Okay.

>> Mike: And, ah, an event happened in the yurt. in the middle of the night, one of the men in the yurt said to his wife, smell my finger. My question is, what the hell? I didn't sleep the rest of the night?

>> Darin: No, no, no, no. Well, you slept on the floor.

>> Mike: I did.

>> Darin: I had a cot. Yeah. I didn't know you were coming to that, or I would have brought an additional cot.

>> Mike: I fought it. I fought it tooth and nail. I was like, I don't want to sleep in a yurt.

>> Darin: Yeah. Anyway, this guy sleeps. He. He'll dig, like, a six foot, igloo and sleep under the snow. Boy, that wind. We're protected from the wind, but, boy, it's starting to get cold. And his rules are, Mike, I don't mind being cold. I don't mind being wet. I don't mind being hungry. But I can only do one of these at a time.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: And I'm thinking, I can't do any of these anytime, right?

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And when he eats, he goes. And this is how the guy eats. He's out there in the middle of Alaska underneath 8ft of snow. Time to make some dinner. I'm gonna make a whole chicken. And he. He makes his fire. He splays the chicken down the. Down the. The sweet spot there.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Makes it. I don't know. And then it takes, like, a couple hours to cook the chicken. I'm like, I can't wait. Two hours to eat the chicken. How. And then he's. A little salt and pepper. Put a little basil on there. Put a little, Put some.


Every video I watch, I'm like, where does he poop

I got some mushrooms and onions. He makes a stew. Like, dude, sandwiches. You make sandwiches and you eat the sandwiches.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: But my whole thing. And I'm watching this and every video I watch, I'm like, where does he poop? And I just cannot fathom being out in negative 26 degrees and having to poop. Because this guy, he will make, like, a giant thing, a heaping, pot of beans.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And he put sausage and onions and puts a little jalapenos in there. That's gonna go right through you. Okay.

>> Mike: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Darin: That's gonna. When you poop in the snow, it's going right down to the core of the earth. And I just, like, I don't know how. How he does it, because you'd think that. And I don't mean to be crude, but if you've listened to us once or if you're one of our loyal fans. Right. You're used to this. But that's gonna freeze your sweet spot.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: your butthole's gonna freeze completely shut.

>> Mike: Hey, what happened?

>> Darin: I don't know how he does it. And my family, they're like, I'm watching this. And like, dad, like, where does he poop? Yes, dad, we know. We know that you're fascinated with this, and we don't know where he poops, dad.


TikTok is crazy, dad. Go to TikTok. com. Get your account

But can we talk about something else, dad? Well, I want to know what he does, and I. Now, listen. I don't want to watch a video of him doing it. Yeah, but there's something wrong with the guy.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Now, he stopped doing the videos years ago. And then they started, They just. For whatever reason, that TikTok is crazy, because I remember out of nowhere, videos of pandas falling out of trees. Our episode, Pandas are Stupid, Right?

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: That just showed up. I was never looking for that. I used to watch woodworking videos all the time. People, With the. The lathe.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: You put the. The wood on the lathe. Yes. Spin it. And then you make a bowl out of it. And every video. Every woodworking video, they make a bowl. They make it into a bowl. I'm sorry. They make it into a bowl or. Or a vase. They make it to a nice. Into a nice wooden vase.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: TikTok. Go, to TikTok.com. get your account.


Rob Remke is Irritable Dad Syndrome's listener of the week

>> Dave: We interrupt our program for a special announcement. Congratulations to Rob Remke, Irritable Dad Syndrome's listener of the week. This has been a special announcement.

>> Mike: We had an Irritable dad syndrome event.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: It didn't start out as one.

>> Darin: It became, and patrons were welcome.

>> Mike: And we went to go see the Shining in the imax. And M. Man. Man. I'm here to tell you, I can't.

>> Darin: Remember the last time I was in IMAX theater. I think I've only been to IMAX once.

>> Mike: That was something else. so the Shining is one of my favorite horror movies of all time.

>> Darin: Yep.

>> Mike: And I. I've seen it I don't know how many times, but I've always watched it on the tv.

>> Darin: Right. We're so old. I watched it on.

>> Mike: On the tv, on the televisions and.

>> Darin: on the boob tube.

>> Mike: If you've lived under a rock your entire life, the Shining involves a hotel, the Overlook Hotel. And just, you know, just zany things happen. Wacky, wacky cuckoo things. it's a. It's Jack Nicholson joint. And him and his wife and son, Shelley Duvall. And then the little kid, Tony, Randall. Tony Randall, Yeah. They stay in the hotel over the winter, right to through May. Their caretakers of the hotel.

>> Darin: And Jack Nicholson asked, well, that's such a beautiful place up here. How come people don't come up? And I imagine it'd be great for skiing. And they're like, dude, we get 20ft of snow. You can't even.

>> Mike: What are you even talking about?

>> Darin: Yeah, you're at. Your mind. So can't even drive on this windy ass road that it takes to get to the old.

>> Mike: Everybody leaves and then just some tomfoolery erupts.


Darren: The Shining is my favorite Stephen King book

Now, the Shining. The book, the Shining shenanigans. Darren mentioned earlier in the podcast, Stephen, King's my favorite author. the book the Shining is my favorite Stephen King book. The movie has very little to do with the actual book, but I love the movie so much. And part of the reason the movie is so spooky, kind, of the new buzzword these days in scary flicks is the liminal spaces. Right? A liminal space is like a, mall. So picture a mall.

>> Darin: Is that, like, Euclidean?

>> Mike: It is. It is very much. Okay, so, you know, like, listen to a mall, a place that you normally have a lot of people. Suddenly you have no people. It goes from being a benign place to very spooky. Oh, so this hotel. So it was like one of the first in my, experience liminal space, horror. Things like, nothing should be in the hotel with them. And there's some stuff in the hotel. There's some things. And there's some dogs with weird tastes.

>> Darin: Now, now there was some kind of big.

>> Mike: Cause now when you're sitting at home in your undies, eating the Cheetos, watching the Shining on your tv, it's easy to take yourself out of the movie. It's just. It's just a movie over there on the tv. When you're sitting in an IMAX theater, the way the movie is shot, you feel like you're in the hotel. You have to actually. We talked about this. You have to actually look left and right to see the whole screen there.

>> Darin: Right, right, right.

>> Mike: and more than a few times, I felt a little creeped out. A little creeped out.


The only thing that brought me back was the horrendous acting by some of the actors

The only thing that brought me back was the absolute horrendous acting by. By some of the actors.

>> Darin: I think you have some very definite ideas about what should be done with Danny. And I'd like to know. Well, I. I think maybe he should be taken to a doctor. You think maybe he should be taken to a doctor? When do you think maybe he should be taken to a doctor?

>> Mike: I will say, I had always.

>> Darin: But by all these.

>> Mike: Okay, Jack Nicholson. I will say I had always previously described the movie to people. This is the movie where Jack Nicholson slowly goes crazy he's insane. From the first moment you see him on screen. They're driving to the place.

>> Darin: No, during the interview. He is calm. He's the three Cs. He's calm, he's cool, he is collected. When they said, look, well, okay, but you're watching it knowing Jack Nicholson now.

>> Mike: And. And we had just seen him in the car with his family. They're driving, and Tony Randall says, I'm hungry. And he says, well, maybe you should eat your breakfast this morning. Don't you. Thank you, son. You son of a. And then he just punches Shelley Duvall right in the, left blinder. I'm telling you, he's crazy. From step one.

>> Darin: I think you said Shelly DeVol's smile in IMAX. I'm sorry, but she had janky teeth. And I'm like, she could on the cob through a fence.

>> Mike: Ah, that's hurtful. This was the 70s. Everything, everything was very, 70s ish.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: In the movie. But it was a beautifully shot movie.

>> Darin: Yeah, but no, very well done. The. The actor, Delbert.

>> Mike: Delbert Grady. Yeah.

>> Darin: Was a very good actor.

>> Mike: Oh, yeah, Yeah.

>> Darin: I thought Scatman Crothers was a very good actor.

>> Mike: Yeah. Impressive artwork on his walls was the.

>> Darin: He was the voice of Hong Kong Phooey. Watch this spot once again before your very own eyes. I will hop into the bottom drawer of this here filing cabinet. And then, quick as a flash, I'll pop out of the top drawer as superhero Hong Kong Fooey, one of my favorite cartoons as a kid.

>> Mike: And he does an impression of, Bugs Bunny in the movie. very good. What's up, doc? He does the thing.

>> Darin: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Mike: The bartender was an exceptional actor. Just from this. The point of. I think that was a human that played that shot. Durbin kept leaning over and saying, his eyes aren't moving.

>> Darin: That's right.

>> Mike: He's not responding to anything. Which it is. I really honestly had not noticed that before. So Durbin, pointed that out. As soon as he pointed that out, I was like, thank you for a new chill in this movie that's just full of chills.

>> Darin: Okay, you pissed me off during the movie.

>> Mike: Good.

>> Darin: Because you would lean over to Jason Durbin and go. And then Jason Durbin would say. And I was like, what? And you're like, what, are you deaf? And you guys are talking in the middle of a, movie with, ah, surround sound. Yeah. And I'm hearing, At one point. At one point, one of the scary people did something scary and like, and my arms came up, and Jason Durbin reached over and he held my hand.

>> Darin: And I knew that I was going to be safe because I was in the tender hands of Jason Durbin.

>> Mike: You made me laugh. My off. It was in the first part of the movie. Now, I. I said earlier that Jack Nicholson is crazy from the beginning.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: He's not meant to be that way. He's just Jack Nicholson.

>> Darin: During the interview, he was fine. as soon as they got in the car. Then you're like, we got some problems.

>> Mike: As things go along. There's a point in the movie where it's clear there's some marital strife. And he says, and I'm gonna paraphrase here, but, this is the place where I work. And when I'm working and you walk in the room, you get me the.


Stanley Kubrick was very mean to Shelley Duvall in The Shining

Out of the space. He starts beating his head, and he's like, you could do me a big favor by not walking into the room. Now why don't you just get the. Out of here? And, I mean, it's like. It's brutal. And the look. Shelley Long. Duval. Not Shelly Long, Shelley Duvall. The look on her face. Your heart breaks for what she's going through. It's just silent in the theater. And Derza's.

>> Darin: Hey.

>> Mike: He's like my twin.

>> Darin: I felt so bad because, the three of us, were talking.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: Before the movie started. And the guys in the row in front of us, and they moved. They moved three rows in front because they figured this is what was going to be going on the whole time. Yeah.

>> Mike: It's not good.

>> Darin: Yeah, yeah. Oh, and then Shelley Duvall, she ran like a Muppet. She's got Gumby arms.

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: You said she reminded you a lot of Janice on the Muppets. Yeah.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And so whenever she would run, I would start doing that with my arms. And the people to my right, they may have been annoyed. They may have been entertained. They didn't complain.

>> Mike: Yeah, there was, So there's a lot of stories. There's a documentary on the making of the Shining. And one of the things they talk about in that room, 237. one of the things they talk about is how, there and then. I've seen in other interviews, apparently Stanley Kubrick was very mean to Shelley Duvall.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: And he did it on the. He says he did it to get her in the character.

>> Darin: He made her do a take over a hundred times.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And he thought it was 70. Sometimes it was over 100 times.

>> Mike: But he would do psychological warfare on who. He would be mean to her for hours and hours and hours. And then he would be very nice and apologetic. And then as she started to be. Oh, okay. Then he would just launch back in and cuss her out, just like, keeping her on pins and needles the entire time. but, I don't know where the hell. Oh, no, no.

>> Darin: When.

>> Mike: When she would be. I always felt bad for her in that. But then in those scenes when she's supposed to be running and she turns into one of those used car lot floppy arm guys, I'm like, I think I can see it. I can see. I can see Steve. Stanley Kubrick yelling. Cut. What are you doing?

>> Darin: Yeah, she's at the end of a rope.

>> Mike: What are you doing with your floppy arms here? I mean, she took. I counted from one end of a staircase to another a span of about 10ft. I think she took about 57 steps, hopping and flopping her arms all over the place with the knife. Somebody could get hurt.

>> Darin: Oh, yeah.

>> Mike: That's all I'm saying. Somebody could get hurt.

>> Darin: Now, I'm not going to compare myself to Stanley Kubrick, but I am. I used to be a commercial production manager at a TV station, and I would make local commercials, here in Cincinnati, Ohio. And there was a furniture commercial I was doing, and it involved two people. Okay. And I'm not going to name who they are, although they. I, doubt they would care.

>> Mike: They don't listen to the podcast, Bert and Bernice. Bert.

>> Darin: Yeah. So we'll call it Bert and Ernie. Okay.


So Bert was screwing up, and Bert usually was the one

Okay. So Bert was screwing up, and Bert usually was the one who always had his lines, okay? But today, Bert was not on it.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: So what I did was I walked over to Ernie and I said, ernie, I need you to speed up a little bit, okay? I need you to have a little more enthusiasm. And when you say it's like it's the biggest sale of the year, you're saying it's the biggest sale. I want you to. The biggest sale of the year. Okay? I need you to. I need you to, to, like, let's. Let's straighten your posture up a little bit. Okay?

>> Mike: You got a bird?

>> Darin: I said I need you to. I said, I'm all over it.

>> Mike: Burke.

>> Darin: Said, I need you to smile more. And I gave him.

>> Mike: Yeah, I gave him good direction.

>> Darin: Gave Ernie, like, five things that he needed to do. and then I looked at Burton. I said, you're great.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I walked up, and Ernie was like, what was that?

>> Mike: What was that?

>> Darin: Right. And then. And then Bert started laughing so hard because I just. Just told this other guy, do all this stuff. And then that fixed it.

>> Mike: Yeah, that totally.

>> Darin: That totally fixed.

>> Mike: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Darin: So by comparison, if Stanley Kubrick felt that demoralizing her and, breaking her and destroying her will to live was what it took to make a good movie, I mean, then maybe that. Maybe that's what he did. But, I mean, I was talking about this. We talked about this a couple weeks ago. Yeah, that. I said it was irresponsible. It's like if you are a film director and you can't get your take, if you can't get what you want, if it takes you 100 times 70, sometimes it's irresponsible. It's a waste of film. It's waste of time. Okay. You're paying all of these grips, all of these lighting people by the hour.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: Kubrick, you need to get your act together or you need to stop making movies. I said it. We're gonna wrap this one up. We hope you enjoyed this episode of Irritable Dad Syndrome. If you want to hear more, you can go to irritabledadsyndrome.com. if you want to become a patron, you can do that. Some of our most, Some of our best friends are our patrons.

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>> Darin: Let's get this party started right. Let's get this party started quickly.

>> Mike: I'm a control freak, so that.

>> Darin: Do you want to move it?

>> Mike: No, no, I like this.

>> Darin: Because God forbid you don't be in control of something.

>> Mike: That's what I want to see if I can get a higher resolution.

>> Darin: 1280 by 7. Oh, oh. 1920 by 1080. That makes me moist. Love to eat turkey.

>> Darin: Yo, what up, freak nasty?

>> Mike: He was in all in the Family.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: He was in more than four episodes, wasn't he?

>> Darin: He was in every episode.

>> Mike: Okay. So I looked him up on I. IMDb and it said, let's save it.

>> Darin: For the show on the.

>> Mike: Excuse me. It said all in the Family. He was only there for four episodes. Okay.

>> Darin: Yeah, he was on more than four episodes.

>> Mike: Yeah, that's what I thought.

>> Darin: You watched all in the Family, right?

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: What?

>> Mike: I didn't,

>> Darin: Yeah, and sometimes he tents without a tent.

>> Mike: Can you get over yourself?

>> Darin: I'm just asking a question.

>> Mike: I'm just.

>> Darin: I'm just asking a question.

>> Mike: If this were.

>> Darin: Can you suck it.

>> Mike: If this were hurdles, huh? You wouldn't be able to get over yourself. You trip right at the.

>> Darin: A little twisty, but anyway. God, is this. This is so boring.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Do we need to start over? No.

>> Mike: Okay, let's just go right into it. Page 12.99 for that, but who's counting? I never. I don't. I mean, I'm just assuming that's what it costs.

>> Darin: Yep, yep, yep.

>> Mike: This is going to be a long thing. And it's.

>> Darin: Hello.

>> Mike: Hey. Welcome to the stream. We're excited you're here.

>> Darin: Yeah, just a.

>> Mike: What are you, 128 now?

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>> Mike: Oh, look at that, baby. Look at that.

>> Darin: Looks great.

>> Mike: Look at that.

>> Darin: Looks great. Looks great. Sounds great.

>> Mike: Look bright.

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>> Darin: M. Have a great day and stay cool.