March 17, 2026

IDS #300 - Juggling and Jiggling (w/ Chris Michel and Jason Durbin)

IDS #300 - Juggling and Jiggling (w/ Chris Michel and Jason Durbin)
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Episode 300! In This Episode Celebrating Episode 300 of Irritable Dad Syndrome with Jason Durbin and Chris Michel.Iced Tea Debate ResultsHow Do You Make a Grilled Cheese SandwichJuggling and JigglingDarin Rescued The U2 Propaganda Issue from War Torn ChicagoThe PedwayDarin Called Darlin'Florida Man Abducted By Dolphins Building an Underwater CityRaising GirlsThe Matrix and HeatChris Thought Mike Was a CelebrityAlexa Getting Sassy AgainListen to Irritable Dad Syndrome New episodes every Tuesda...

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Episode 300!

In This Episode

  • Celebrating Episode 300 of Irritable Dad Syndrome with Jason Durbin and Chris Michel.
  • Iced Tea Debate Results
  • How Do You Make a Grilled Cheese Sandwich
  • Juggling and Jiggling
  • Darin Rescued The U2 Propaganda Issue from War Torn Chicago
  • The Pedway
  • Darin Called Darlin'
  • Florida Man Abducted By Dolphins Building an Underwater City
  • Raising Girls
  • The Matrix and Heat
  • Chris Thought Mike Was a Celebrity
  • Alexa Getting Sassy Again

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This is, like, the most famous I will ever be snow

>> Mike: This is, like, the most famous I will ever be snow.

>> Mike: That's sad.

>> Mike: It's a lot of pressure.

>> Mike: there's always. You could always get caught in a theater.

>> Mike: Hello.

>> Darin: There's still hope.

>> Mike: Move it, man.

>> Darin: We're in for one wild night. Holy crap.


This is Irritable Dad Syndrome, Cincinnati's comedy podcast

>> Dave: It's time for the 300th episode of Irritable Dad Syndrome. Here are your hosts, Mike and Darren.

>> Darin: Hi, I'm Darren.

>> Mike: Hi, I am Mike.

>> Darin: Welcome to Irritable Dad Syndrome, Cincinnati's comedy podcast. Hold on. This is episode 300.

>> Mike: Hey, Darren. I heard episode 300 was going to be a good one.

>> Darin: It's going to be a great one because we have two special guests in the studio. We have our bosses. We have Jason Durbin. He was here for our 250th episode. Welcome, Jason.

>> Mike: Thank you. Thank you.

>> Darin: And for the first time ever, Chris Michael has joined us. Chris is my neighbor who Mike loves to punch in the face. And I can't believe that he's here, but he is here. Chris, welcome to Irritable Dad Syndrome.

>> Mike: Well, thanks. It's great to be here. Mike has already punched me in the face before the show, so, we're getting off to a good start.

>> Mike: Why don't we put him on the same side?

>> Mike: Well, the judge, he eased the restraining order, so I am allowed to be within 6 inches of Chris Michael, which, unless I get excited, I'm okay.

>> Darin: In all seriousness, Chris and Jason, they have contributed financially to the podcast, bought so many peeps for years. Years. Yeah, for years. And in all seriousness, I cannot thank you enough for your support and for your support for believing in this podcast and helping us keep the lights on, and it really means the world to me. So thank you.

>> Mike: Yes, thank you.

>> Darin: and I can't. I hold no responsibility for what Mike says to you on this episode. I'm going to apologize in advance.

>> Mike: So Darren and I, in order to. To save our sanity and keep this thing going for so long, we've split up duties and we've talked about it. You guys get bored with that, But I'll just say, Darren, the audio portion, I do the video and then handle the business side.

>> Darin: You handle all the social media.

>> Mike: I see how much money is coming in and going out. And yes, technically, you can just push record on your phone and make a podcast for whatever your phone bill is. But, you're going to get about as many listeners as we have right now doing that.

>> Darin: But we.

>> Mike: We have some. We put some effort into this thing. We do some with. Do some stuff. We have A lot of services that we pay for. This podcast is not cheap to produce and run, and we could not do that without you guys.

>> Darin: We couldn't.

>> Mike: Both of you and the rest of our patrons help. We would not be able to do this.

>> Mike: Can I have a special request?

>> Darin: yeah.

>> Mike: This shirt's getting kind of old and

>> Darin: ragged, and I need a. Chris is wearing a.

>> Mike: If one showed up at the house.

>> Mike: You know what? There's a limit. You know there's a limit.

>> Mike: Okay. I wouldn't complain.

>> Mike: I'm just saying. Did you get rich mug?

>> Mike: I don't think I got. Where's my coffee mug?

>> Darin: You've got a beer mug.

>> Mike: I've gotten two coffee mugs.

>> Mike: What?

>> Darin: Yes, you got a mug.

>> Mike: You showed your mug one time because, I think Mr. Michael and Mr. Hug, he's came in after the merch thing was set.

>> Darin: Oh, okay.

>> Mike: So I think they got gypped.

>> Mike: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

>> Mike: Can I say that they got. They got.

>> Mike: Yeah, you can say that.

>> Dave: Oh, absolutely.

>> Mike: I don't want to get canceled. Yeah, yeah.


Since it's your 300th episode, I did bring a gift for you guys

>> Mike: Speaking of cancel.

>> Mike: Egyptians aren't listening to this, trust me. As most Americans are not either.

>> Mike: But, hey, so since it's your 300th episode, I did bring a gift for you guys.

>> Mike: Oh, okay.

>> Darin: Oh, wow.

>> Mike: If you would like it now or.

>> Darin: Yeah, give it to me now.

>> Mike: This one's for you, Darren.

>> Mike: Oh, look at that gonorrhea. He's already got those.

>> Darin: My uncle.

>> Mike: I didn't know if you were uncle gave you running low or Darren or Jason. You doing all right on foil?

>> Darin: Aluminum.

>> Mike: You need some foil for.

>> Darin: There's nothing in it. It's just aluminum. foil with aluminum foil.

>> Mike: I think that. I think that's awesome.

>> Mike: You got to put it on your head.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: Ye.

>> Mike: The aliens.

>> Mike: That's.

>> Mike: And all that from listening after all the.

>> Mike: From the other episode.

>> Darin: He brought this in a gift bag and put a bow on it.

>> Mike: I was getting ready to come out, and I'm asking m like, do we have any gift bags? And she's like, yeah, they're in the guest room, like. And I come back down. I'm like, where are, like, the bows you put on Christmas gifts? She's like, what are you doing? It's like, you'll find out later. Don't worry about it.

>> Mike: You know, it's the gift that just keeps on giving.

>> Darin: Keeps on giving.

>> Mike: I was going to bring some iced tea, but I didn't want to have anything come to blows.

>> Mike: Oh, yeah.

>> Mike: We got to talk about ice.

>> Darin: We've got to talk about the iced tea.


A majority of people believe that Bess was correct about ordering iced tea

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Because, the votes are in. Yeah. Mike and I, two episodes ago, had the debate of all debates about his wife Bess ordering an iced tea and how the person should have said it, what Beth should have said. It turned into something that it shouldn't have turned into. but the votes have come in the last time I looked.

>> Mike: Okay. So clearly what the data shows.

>> Mike: Hm.

>> Mike: Is that the IQ level of our patrons is lower than that of the general populace.

>> Darin: A majority of people believe that Bess was correct.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: When she answered the question about the iced tea.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: I thought it was funny.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Mike: The. The team, Mike, Charlie, you guys voted against a little boy. and Bess's friend.

>> Darin: Right. Her confidant, Jocelyn.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Who is. If that's her real name.

>> Mike: They said, quote, yes, money changed hands. That iced tea is spiritually mine. That's, worst verse to give her option B. Bess. and the M answer is no. No. If it's not in my hand, I did not get it. But listen, I don't see how you travel through life.

>> Darin: every person I've talked to about this story. It's. The consensus is it's not whether the person asked, did you get an iced tea? Or did you get your iced tea? Is the person should have said, did you order an iced tea?

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: Then that would have given you your answer that you feel America should.

>> Mike: Okay, so which one of you jackasses voted for option B?

>> Mike: I don't really remember. Honestly, it's been so long ago.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Sometimes I know. You voted for yourself.

>> Darin: And Chris Hughes.

>> Mike: And Chris Hughes.

>> Mike: I just tried to do whatever you were going to do, but the opposite.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Mike: I just wanted to sway the pole.

>> Darin: Something that we do on this podcast periodically. And I'd given Mike crap about this because I said, you know what? When your wife does something, I don't ridicule. You know, I don't ridicule my wife and throw her under the bus. I'm about to do that.


Christopher: How do you make a grilled cheese sandwich

Okay, so I'm gonna ask you guys, how do you make a grilled cheese sandwich? Oh, how do you make grilled cheese?

>> Mike: I asked my wife to do it.

>> Darin: Oh, you have. Okay. Do you make a grilled cheese there, Christopher? Yeah. Okay, how do you do it?

>> Mike: You get bread and you toast it, and you.

>> Mike: You put it.

>> Darin: Oh, my God, you're the worst guest ever.

>> Mike: I'm not.

>> Mike: Is this about the butter? Where you put the butter at?

>> Darin: Hold on. How do you make a grilled cheese?

>> Mike: I switched over to Bess's way of doing it, but the original way. And it pissed her off. She was so mad at me. For years, the kids preferred the daddy grilled cheese. Daddy grilled cheese is you toast two pieces of bread. You put two pieces of American cheese, you take the plastic off, right? And then you microwave it for, like, 30 seconds. Okay. And when you see it bubbling out the side, you stop, and you give it to your kid. And then Bess would always say, that's not a real grilled cheese. You can't do it like that. Right. And then she got really mad when they started preferring that to her. Gourmet. Put butter on it and all that stuff.

>> Darin: Okay? So this is how I've always made a grilled cheese sandwich. Okay. You butter one piece of bread. you put it on the griddle, you put the cheese, Sometimes two pieces of cheese, then you put the other piece of bread on top.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Okay. And then while it's on the griddle or your skillet, the heat goes through, it starts to melt the cheese.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And then you flip the whole entire sandwich, and then you grill the other side of it. Okay. That's how I've always made a grilled cheese. That's how my father. That's how my brother, my mom.

>> Mike: It's how America.

>> Darin: That's how Americans.

>> Mike: So they've been doing it wrong for how long?

>> Mike: Well, I.

>> Darin: Here's the thing. I came home the other night, and Libby was making grilled cheese sandwich, and she has one piece of bread on the griddle and the other piece of bread also on the griddle, with a piece of cheese on each side.

>> Mike: What the hell is that?

>> Darin: And I said, what are you doing? She says, I'm making a grilled cheese.

>> Mike: No, you're making a mistake.

>> Mike: My question is, what the hell?

>> Darin: Why are you doing it like that? and she said, and I quote, I've always done it like that. To which I said, quote, no, you haven't. because I've known her for 27 years.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I have never seen her make a grilled cheese like that. Now, inherently, is it wrong? It's still grilled. She grilled the one side and the other side at the same time and then put them together.

>> Mike: Have you just assumed she's. Maybe she's been doing it all this way? Like, how many times you actually watch somebody make a grilled cheese? You know it's happening. Are you just assuming? And then this time, you happen to

>> Darin: be watching make hundreds of grilled cheeses? Okay, I know that that's not how she's always done it. What is going on?

>> Mike: So you're saying, what's the right way to do it? Not that.

>> Darin: No, it's not. It's. It's not a situation where this is the right way to make a grilled cheese sandwich and that's a wrong way to make a grilled cheese sandwich. She says that she's always done that, and that's a lie.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: And so now I'm like, what do I do in this situation? Do I call the authorities?

>> Mike: She's gaslighting you is what she's saying.

>> Darin: Do I call protective services and have our children removed from the house?

>> Mike: Okay, Libby, I want you to know that I am against this entire conversation.

>> Mike: I'd like to bring something up I figured out about you.

>> Mike: What's that?

>> Mike: About five minutes ago.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: You are using the wrong sauce for whatever it is you made upstairs.

>> Darin: Why?

>> Mike: None of your family loves it.

>> Mike: That's just horrible.

>> Darin: That's spaghetti. Did you have.

>> Mike: Yeah, no, no, no.


You still make it despite your kids not liking it

>> Mike: It was, What was?

>> Mike: Ravioli's. Your mama's spicy. Your mom is spicy.

>> Mike: Yeah, they.

>> Mike: They ate about half of it. I've watched them throw it away.

>> Mike: Yeah, they don't like it.

>> Mike: No, I love it. You still make it?

>> Mike: I'm an only child.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Mike: I make what tastes good to me.

>> Darin: But you have kids and a wife.

>> Mike: I also have a stomach and desires.

>> Mike: Well, it's three versus one. That's all I want to say.

>> Mike: So Andrew loves that stuff with the yo mama spicy marinara. He loves it. He does, at times, throw away. Yeah, he digs it. He's happy with it. Charlie does not like it at all. He refuses to eat it. Bess says, when I make it, ugh, I'm gonna make something else.

>> Darin: And yet Mike continues to make it.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, it was.

>> Mike: It was a trough.

>> Mike: Yeah. Let's get into this.


M. M. asks Mike about his weight loss efforts

All right, Here we go.

>> Mike: All right.

>> Mike: I have, an 18 year old in the house that eats all the things. Okay. So I've I. What I do during the weekend on Sundays, I make my lunches for the week. I make a big ass walk full of chicken, stir fry stuff, and then I put it in these little meal prep things. it's a new thing I started this year. I need to get rid of this.

>> Mike: What's going on?

>> Mike: And then I noticed that Andrew would just, like, want to eat those all the time. So I started making massive amounts. I have my five, and then there's usually another five left over. I call those the extra. They're Decoys. And I said to him, you can have anything that says extra. Anything that says, Mike, you can't have. Before that happened, this pasta dish occurred. M. Right. And I could put that whole thing in the fridge. And he loved it. That would distract him from dad's other food. And I could eat the food that I like, with wild abandon. I also found a cottage cheese peanut butter cup recipe that everyone in this family hates. They actually get. You can see them getting sick when I mention it. I think it tastes amazing. So I have a big old dessert

>> Darin: that's all for you.

>> Mike: It's cottage cheese, peanut butter, and chocolate.

>> Mike: I could probably explain what happened down there.

>> Mike: And you're in my Jimmer Jammer.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Dave: Yeah.

>> Mike: I mean, given all the stuff you've told us about the recipes, I think I know where the weight's coming from.

>> Mike: My kids are just at an age where they hate anything that you buy in large quantities. So they, ah, like, went on a bender a month ago about the blueberries. Like, blueberries are great. Okay, cool. Next time you're at Costco, pick up a case of blueberries. I'm good for the year.

>> Darin: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Mike: Hate blueberries.

>> Darin: They'll eat them, until you buy them.

>> Mike: I'm like, why do I even bother?

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And then they don't eat.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah.

>> Mike: But if you run out, then that's all they want.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: In fact, you need to get in your car right now, go up to Kroger and get more. Literally, have my five year old tell me that

>> Dave: you are listening to Irritable Dad Syndrome. A refreshing blend of form and function.

>> Darin: I was going through, the Facebook memories, and I found this old video of me juggling. And so I made a comment on it. And if you comment on a video from one of your memories, it pops back into your thing and then. And then the video comes back up in your feed. And so I said, I don't juggle as much as I used to or I don't juggle as much as I should. Yeah, right. And then my friend Steve said, yeah. And we're all glad for that.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And I'm like, what does that mean? And then somebody laughed at his comment.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And then a second person laughed at his comment, and then a third person laughed at his comment comment. And I'm thinking his comment wasn't that funny. I went back and looked and realized three days later that I had written, I don't jiggle as much as I should.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: That was a typo.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Yeah. So my apologies. To everybody imagining me jiggle begs the

>> Mike: question, how much should one jiggle?

>> Mike: What is the proper amount of jiggle?

>> Darin: Exactly as much as you want. Let it all hang out. What?

>> Mike: Lord.

>> Darin: But how did I not catch that?

>> Mike: It was.

>> Darin: I don't jiggle as much as I should. Three days took me to notice that.

>> Mike: Ah, well, if you jiggle it more than twice, you know what? That's right.

>> Mike: That's right.


Brad: Darren did for me. Can I say a nice thing about that

I want to say a nice thing. Can I say a nice thing about that? Darren did for me.

>> Mike: God's sakes, would you?

>> Mike: We talked about this before the podcast.

>> Darin: Yeah. I walked through war torn Chicago.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: To get you a magazine.

>> Mike: My favorite band. Here's the thing. We don't get political, but my favorite band is a pretty political band. And, unless you've been living under a rock, things are pretty political right now.

>> Mike: What's this new kids on the block doing nowadays exactly? Well,

>> Mike: they've changed. Yeah. So they reinvigorated their, fan club magazine that they had in the 80s and 90s called propaganda. And they put out a single issue and it's free. I didn't know this right time. It's free, but you're only allowed one. They're numbered. it's a 40th anniversary. If you're a YouTube fan, 40 is a big number for them.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: So I saw that they only put them in 150 record stores in the country. In the world. 150 in the world.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And of course, none are around us except, like, Columbus. But I'm not going to drive to Columbus.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: And Darren was on a Chicago business trip. A business trip. And two of these stores were in Chicago. And I thought, no, I'm not gonna. Darren is working, he's on business. I'm not gonna bug him. Hey, go get this YouTube. Funny book. But you did it for me. Hold on. I'm not gonna do it. And I resigned myself to that. I went to bed that night, conscience, clear. I felt like a good person. I didn't bug my friend when he was trying to do business.

>> Darin: The next day you wake up. I open up the Facebooks.

>> Mike: Hey, I wonder if anybody commented on anything today. And Darren's in there. Whatever. You were counting your toes. You took a picture of something and you. Something about you still being in Chicago.

>> Darin: The weather was so. The weather was across the street.

>> Mike: And I thought, well, he's still there and clearly he's not doing anything. So that I just.

>> Darin: Seven in the morning, by the way.

>> Mike: So, yeah, I've been up for hours. At that point I just said, by the way, I think I said, Brett, Brett. And you know, it's, it's trouble at that point. It's Brad, we're on the brat. We're at that level. Moved on. Yeah. And I said, if you're not doing anything, are you still in Chicago? Are you still in Chicago?

>> Darin: Yep.

>> Mike: Yeah. Which, you know what? If you'd said no, you wouldn't have heard from me again for like crickets

>> Darin: because Mike doesn't text. Yeah, yeah.

>> Mike: And you, you made the mistake of saying yeah. And then you agreed, like a long story short, you agreed to go try to find this art for your friend. And so I. And you found it. He with me a little bit. He said, I can't find it.

>> Darin: And then I told you a few hours later, wanted an album and I said, oh, so you want me to go walk through war torn Chicago and buy you an album that you're not going to let me borrow?

>> Mike: Yeah, right, right, right.

>> Darin: He says, it's not an album, it's a magazine. Like, okay. So I looked up this place, Reckless Records, and it doesn't open until 10am and I've got to be in the office at 9.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And the strict deadline on the stuff that I was producing, I'm like, I don't know how I'm gonna be able to do it, but I was able to do it.

>> Mike: You did it.


While I was in Chicago, I discovered something. I didn't realize Chicago has a Pedway

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And now I have found out

>> Darin: because I don't know if you guys have ever been to Chicago. Chicago's a big place.

>> Mike: It's pretty large. It's one of the larger towns.

>> Darin: Turns out this record store is a 15 minute walk from the office.

>> Mike: I think 15 minutes is about the walk for everything in Chicago. You're always about 15 minutes away from something. There's. Yeah.

>> Darin: So I'm like, okay. And I went down there and, and Mike was pretty cool. He said, buy it, I'll pay for it. And buy yourself something. And I'll buy that too.

>> Mike: And I think I even sent you a little picture of a Randy Quaid with the get yourself something nice.

>> Mike: Really nice.

>> Darin: And yeah, I, ah, went in there and I asked the guys, can I help you find anything? I said, yeah, I'm looking for the U2 propaganda. He goes, oh. And he turns around and there was two left. Yeah, two. And, and I said, how much do I owe you? He goes, it's free.

>> Mike: That's crazy free.

>> Darin: Son of a. Because you said that on ebay people are selling it for 100.

>> Mike: I saw one today for $150.

>> Darin: Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. that's what you call kids a markup. So.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Anyway, yeah, I walked through war torn Chicago, risked my life. There were gangs and tanks and.

>> Mike: Yeah, it was.

>> Darin: Oh, just. Yeah, I had to crawl under barbed wire at one point. But I got it for you, my friend.

>> Mike: I appreciate it. And I even offered to give you the Sound Garden album. Not really. I wouldn't really let him have it, but offer it. Yeah.

>> Darin: That reminds me. While I was in Chicago, I discovered something. I've been up there three or four times since I've started the job that I have. I didn't realize that Chicago has a, Pedway.

>> Mike: What?

>> Mike: What?

>> Darin: Pedway? Oh, it's like an underground underground sidewalks.

>> Mike: Oh.

>> Mike: I went a totally different direction.

>> Darin: they call it Take the Ped way.

>> Mike: Very careful with the transcript on this one.

>> Darin: That's what it's called, you know, So I was. I was excited.

>> Mike: Was it all different colors and sizes?

>> Darin: I was exploring one night after work and I'm trying to find this hot dog place because I've had authentic Chicago pizza. Though not the time before. Whatever. I had this. I had this deep dish Chicago pizza, one piece that knocked you on your ass. And so I'm like, I want to get like a real Chicago hot dog. And someone told me there's a place called Portillo's. I couldn't find one of those clothes.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: But I did find, another hot dog place that I can't remember the name of. So I'm on my GPS and I'm walking down the street, I'm trying to find this hot dog place. And it's like, okay, you go down here and then you take a ride on Washington. They take a left on Michigan and something walking. You're. It says 200ft. You're 100ft. You're 50ft away. You're 0ft away. Yeah, 50ft away.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: back up 100ft. I'm like, what the hell? And so I am the typical tourist standing there with my phone in my hand.

>> Mike: Did you look up? I've done that before.

>> Darin: Maybe it's floating. I had tourists, please rob me written all over me. And I'm just spinning around in circles and I can't find this hot dog place. And I gave up and I. It's like, I just. I went and I ate. I found something else to eat. And the next day I'm at the office and I'm telling people about that. And they said, well, did you take the sidewalk or were you on the pedway? I said, what? I was probably very careful.


Chicago is one of my favorite cities in the Americas

>> Mike: How? you answer that question.

>> Darin: Probably standing right on top of it.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Because it says you've arrived. I'm like, no, I haven't. Oh, there's no. Yeah, I've seen hot dog places before. This is a giant, like a skyscraper that they sell a lot of hot dogs.

>> Mike: I feel like if you're on the way, you know, when you ever ride

>> Darin: not way it's the ped way is

>> Mike: a whole different animal. Oh, be careful.

>> Mike: That's horribly mistaken.

>> Mike: Way doesn't open till about midnight on Friday nights.

>> Darin: What is going on here?

>> Mike: I don't know. We're flying really close to the sun.

>> Darin: do we need to cut him off?

>> Mike: Well, guys, I've said this before. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Chicago is one of my favorite cities. it's a great city to walk around in. It's clean. There's stuff to look at. Oh yeah, you're always within 100ft of a pizza in case something happens.

>> Mike: They have that giant bean.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Ah, yeah, I've seen that. And then I passed that again trying to find the hot dog place. Like, that's not a hot. I'll tell you. That is not a hot dog.

>> Mike: I know a hot dog when I'm seeing them.

>> Mike: That ain't it.

>> Mike: And there's a lot of stuff at the pier. Like. So Bess and I and the kids had gone to Chicago. I think, Charlie was like a little. He was. He was like 2 years old. and we went on the Navy Pier and you know, shopping around and looking at stuff. And then when I went with Dan, you know, we went to go see the oasis. That's when we discovered there's like bars on the pier there. And you can like sit and look at the. The what? There's a. There's a lake there. I don't know if you're aware that Chicago.

>> Mike: I've heard that there's.

>> Mike: It's on a lake. Great Lake Lake Chicago. Yeah, it's great. they diet green. Yeah, they dye it green for Christmas. It's amazing.

>> Darin: If they can die green today, why can't they dye it blue the rest of the year? The fugitive do.

>> Mike: But, yeah, I love Chicago. It's as far as cities in the Americas, that's one of my favorite cities. Yeah, the Chicago's. Yeah.

>> Darin: So I didn't get my Chicago Hot dog. And with tears in my eyes, I was like, well, until I come back. And then, I'm at o' Hare airport getting ready to fly back to Cincinnati, and I'm walking through, and there's a. America's, dog. It's a hot dog place in the airport. And I thought, do I try it?


Dave Lay ordered the Louisville dog. Is it gonna taste like an airport hot dog

Do I risk it? Is it. Is it gonna taste like an airport hot dog? Turns out, it did.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: But I. I waited in line, and I put my name on the, kiosk. I ordered the Louisville dog. The Louisville dog has, cheese and

>> Mike: chitlins, and it does not pork rinds

>> Darin: gravy. No. It has mashed, potatoes. No, it has onion rings. It has onion rings.

>> Mike: Does the.

>> Mike: Does the hot dog go through the onion ring, like, in a circle?

>> Darin: The shredded, fried, onion rings. Oh, and, a bourbon. It had a bourbon maple bacon, which I thought, that sounds delicious.

>> Mike: Too many things together.

>> Darin: But it wasn't. It wasn't. So I ordered the hot, dog, and I'm waiting, and this little, guy comes up, and he said. He looks at my name, and I'm like, here we go. Here we go. He looks at it, and he goes, darlin. Whoa.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: Yes, darling.

>> Darin: Hello, darling.

>> Mike: Nice to see you, darling. There you go.

>> Darin: Hello, darling.

>> Mike: That's your official name on the podcast.

>> Darin: How so? Add that to the list. I've had, Derek, Daryl, Damon, Dwayne, Damien, and I've had. The famous one was Darfin.

>> Mike: Darfin's my favorite. Well, it was my favorite.

>> Darin: Yeah, Darwin was something that I got

>> Mike: at the Chick Fil A.

>> Darin: Now I got Darlin.

>> Mike: Yeah, like, thanks, buddy.

>> Darin: Type your name in.

>> Mike: It's not like you said your name.

>> Darin: No, I typed it in. D. I swear.

>> Mike: They're all from Hamilton.

>> Mike: Yeah, they had letters, the worst.

>> Mike: That don't exist. It's got to be Hamilton.

>> Darin: Yeah, but Dar.

>> Mike: And the symbol for,

>> Dave: Hi. This is Dave Lay. Sorry I couldn't be there for the 300th episode. You see, I had a previous engagement. I know that makes me sound really important. I also want to say thanks to all our fans and friends of the show for your support over the past five years. It really means a lot to me. This sincere moment has been brought to you by Whompers. All beef footlong hot dogs.


Aaron Durbin: I have a story from a fan of the show

Back to you guys in the studio.

>> Darin: I have a story from a fan of the show. I'm gonna read this story. And, no, I'm. I'm not taking any comments.

>> Mike: I'm not interrupting at all until you're done.

>> Darin: No comments. No comments.

>> Mike: Dare you.

>> Darin: So, fan of the show, Aaron Durbin.

>> Mike: Okay, Who?

>> Darin: I think you know.

>> Mike: You know her. There we go. Hey, Aaron Durbin.

>> Darin: Yeah. See, it's, it's E. E Ryan. E. Ryan Durbin. She calls me at the house and I've asked her not to do that.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: She said, darren, I stop having a landline.

>> Mike: Yeah, right.

>> Darin: She says, I've got a story that I think you'll enjoy on the podcast. Okay. I said, okay. So she sends me this story.


Florida man claims he was kidnapped by dolphins and forced to work underwater

Fort Myers, Florida. Florida, man found sunburned and disoriented on Sanibel Causeway, claiming he was kidnapped by dolphins and forced to build an underground city, an underwater city. Lee county sheriff's deputies responded to the causeway early Monday after a motorist reported a man standing on the shoulder soaking wet and drawing blueprints in the sand. According to the police report, Ricky James Hollowell, 33, was found barefoot, severely sunburned and wearing only swim trunks. He told deputies he had been taken, against his will by a pot of dolphins three days ago and forced to work on what he called an underground construction project, according to Hallowell and the police report. Now, Hallowell claimed that the dolphins approached him while he was swimming off Fort Myers Beach. They escorted him to a site approximately 40ft below the surface. They needed help building structures. He told officers that the dolphins communicated through a series of clicks and that the project, foreman was a dolphin he referred to as Gerald. When asked how he breathed underwater for three days, he said, gerald handled that. I didn't ask questions. You don't question Geralt. Now, the police, they couldn't understand what was going on, but they said that the blueprints were to be taken seriously. The guy had zoning, and, the blueprints were like a really big deal. Now Aaron tells me this entire story and she says, I told my father this story. His response was, why are you pronouncing it Gerald, Your father in law? None of this phased him. Yeah, except why are you pronouncing it girl?

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be him.

>> Darin: I, and I told her, I was like, yeah, we're mentioning that on the program.

>> Mike: It's gonna have to be something like Witcher.

>> Mike: Here's the yes, Gerald of Rivia. can I tell you my biggest problem?

>> Darin: What's that?

>> Mike: Blueprints are called blueprints for a very specific reason. You can't have blueprints in the sand. You can have a design in the sand, you can have plans in the sand, but you can't have a blueprint in the sand. Right.

>> Mike: It did preface all this by saying Florida, man.

>> Mike: It's true.

>> Mike: So there's that. I think it's great that he chose to point out that the dolphins communicated with a series of clicks. Like, that was realistic, huh?

>> Darin: Uh-huh.

>> Mike: He's like, now here. I gotta really get this. I gotta get this.

>> Mike: Realistic.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, Real realistic.

>> Mike: Just making sure.

>> Mike: Because people will think this is if I screw up on how dolphins communicate. So I gotta get that.

>> Darin: Yeah. He had zoning and everything.

>> Mike: Zoning. Yeah.

>> Darin: It was all to be taken very seriously.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Aaron, thank you for the story.

>> Mike: And thank you, Aaron, for giving me another opportunity to mention the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Because if, every readers in the room. Any readers. Oh, absolutely. The greatest book ever written. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. the dolphins warn us to get off the earth, and, they think.

>> Darin: Off the what?

>> Mike: Off the earth that we are.

>> Darin: Oh, okay.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Mike: Yeah. So. Worth a read.

>> Dave: Good morning.


Chris is a father of three girls. So what is it like being a girl dad

>> Darin: So, Chris, you're a dad. And you have, something way not in common with the rest of us. Mike has two sons. Jason has two sons. I have two sons. You're a father of three girls. Yeah. I can't even fathom what it's like being a girl dad.

>> Mike: Even our dogs grow. I'm confronted.

>> Darin: He's a girl, too. Yeah. So what is it like being a girl dad? Bad.

>> Mike: It's not bad. you know, there's a fair amount of, drama that happens, but you kind of. You get used to it. You kind of.

>> Mike: You know, he does. He does edit this. You can let. Let fly.

>> Mike: Oh, good. Okay.

>> Mike: That's.

>> Mike: You know, I'm, like, sitting here, like, my wife's watching me, and I'm in trouble.

>> Darin: A friend of mine was telling me just. We only had Jacob. Yeah. And they were. They had girls and they said girls. It's all dresses and crowns and then doing the nails and special shoes and stuff. And boys, all they want to do is make. Take a stick and turn it into a gun and. And make this explode and make that building fall over and see how fast this can go.

>> Mike: No, I get to. I talk about, We talk about feelings a lot. Everything we have is pink as some. Some flavor of pink on it. The nice thing is, you know, if you have all one gender or the other.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: You don't have to, like, get blue, you know, on the third one. Like. Oh, just hand me downs.

>> Darin: There you go.

>> Mike: Yeah. So that makes it a little bit Easier to know. Well, cost effective. But you're more in tune with, your feelings as a girl, dad. Okay, just how to. Because you're trying to get them, like, you know.

>> Darin: Well, one of my favorite stories that we told on this podcast was being at the gender reveal party. At the second gender reveal party.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: Of yours. Because the, the confetti hadn't even hit the ground yet. When someone's like, well, because we found it was going to be another girl.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And then somebody says, well, they're going to have to have one third one have a boy. And the person says, well, they're gonna have two boys, so even it out. And I looked at him, I said, she's. You're gonna make her pregnant two more times. Good Lord, man, give her a break.

>> Mike: I've learned that that's a trick. So when you get married at the reception, they're always like, when are you having kids? I'm like, we, we're, not even finished with the reception yet. Can I have, can I have a minute to like, enjoy wedded life?

>> Darin: Yes. Can you give me a second?

>> Mike: Yeah. And then, you know, you have, you have your first. And it's when they come over to visit the first for the first time. They're like, oh, so great. When are you having another? And you're like, I don't know, maybe. I don't know. Like, let's. Can I figure out how to change poop diapers first? Yeah.

>> Mike: Can you finish the first episode of the show before you go to the next one?

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: And most people figure that out by the second kid. They're like, no. They're trying to see how many go for. And see, I was the idiot. I went for 3M. And finally on the third, I'm like, all right, boy or girl? Like, I don't care. I'm done at three. Like, that's my max. Yeah.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: So we get to the third and you know, it was like, oh, so great. Like, you know, my cousin was like, so you guys going for four?


People were telling us you shouldn't find out what the sex of the baby is

And I was exactly what went through my head?

>> Mike: I'm like, no.

>> Darin: Are you going to have it? Yeah. Yeah.

>> Mike: Are you paying for. No. Okay, so no.

>> Darin: Sorry. Shut up. No. I remember when, Jacob was on the way, Libby was like three months pregnant or something. And people were telling us, you shouldn't find out what the sex of the baby is. And because we were at a dinner and somebody said, are you gonna find out? We're like, yeah, we're gonna find out. And Libby's friend says, well, I think that's cheating. And I said, well, when you have your kid, you can keep it a secret to yourself. And I get kicked under the table by Libby. I'm like, what? What? I was. I was done with people telling me that I can't find out what the sex of the baby is. M. And I was like, yeah, we're gonna find that out. And look, if you want to keep that a surprise, keep it a surprise. We wanted to know what color we're going to paint the room, and we need to know what type of clothes we're gonna buy. And so we found all that stuff out.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: But now there are people who don't. And I don't judge you if you don't.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: But it's like I was really getting pissed at people judging me because we were finding that out. Yeah. This is one of those things. It's like, you are a parent and you do your kids the way you want to do it.

>> Mike: Yeah. I was back and forth. I mean, I was supporting whatever Bess wanted to do. M. Part of me kind of wanted to be surprised. But she did make the argument, you know, we. We need to know what we're going to buy.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: I remember briefly trying to make the argument that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are gender neutral. You can get.

>> Darin: They are. April. They didn't.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, but that didn't fly. So before we had kids, Bess and I would go to see movies and we would alternate. We would have. We'd see a Bessie movie, and we'd see a Mikey movie. Right. So we go see Miami Vice, and then we go see when what Debbie Met Sally or whatever.

>> Darin: And then we go see 300 When Harry Met Sally.

>> Mike: And then we go see the Wedding Meets the Wedding Person.

>> Mike: Debbie was in Dallas.

>> Mike: We would alternate.

>> Mike: Right.

>> Darin: Looking for a hot dog.

>> Mike: So.


Libby was the one who got us all into the Marvel movies

>> Mike: So Andrew, you know. Yeah, he's born in. He's born back in ought seven. You know, eight was when the Marvel movies started, you know, And I'm like, oh, here we go. You know, and then we got, you know, Charlie came along right. In the midst of all the Avengers stuff happening. And I felt so bad because, Star wars was coming back, the Avengers was going on all these things. And I remember at one point, you know, it was like, well, the next. Thor is coming out next weekend, and then the Star wars movies, and then they're going to do the Hobbit. And then the. And I just looked. I was like, I'm sorry. It's just. I mean, yeah, what do you want? What are you gonna do? But she, she's a good sport. She ended up getting into the Marvel stuff and the Lord of the Rings and all those fun things. Now they did get into the Harry Potter. She was a Harry Potter person.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: You know, so they did get into that. So they enjoyed the Harry Potters. And then when they want to go see a real movie with dad, we watch Return of the King down here. Right.

>> Darin: Well, I've said this over and over again because Libby was the one who got us all into the Marvel movies. Libby was the one who wanted to watch the Lord of the Rings.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Libby's the one who wanted to go see the Matrix. And so she's hip and cool with all that. But every now and then a time comes, like, what Disney remade, I think of Cinderella and she's like, I kind of want to see Cinderella. And nobody wanted to go. And then Libby put her foot down. It's like, oh, come on. How many, how many of these mo Movies if I went to. And they're like, okay, so they watched Cinderella.

>> Mike: Yeah. I will say that, Bess was not, you know, she was not the, the Matrix type person, you know, before the kids. Yeah. But she did watch the Matrix with her friends. She, but she fell asleep. So she watched the beginning. She fell asleep and woke up at the end when they're all like, trying to rescue Morpheus in the helicopter scene. So from her point of view, Keanu Reeves was like an I T. Guy. She falls asleep, wakes up, he's in black leather dodging bullets, you know, using a chain gun on the side of a, helicopter. No idea what's going on. Missed out the whole. Morpheus has that, you know. yeah.

>> Mike: Figure out the middle.

>> Mike: We, well, we, we eventually watched it like, together, like the whole thing. Like, oh, she's like, I didn't see any of this stuff with the guy with the sunglasses in the white room explaining everything. It's like, well, that's a key part of that movie.

>> Darin: Well, what I've learned about the Matrix is if you watch all the movies or if you don't watch any of the movies, you have about the same level of understanding of what happens in those movies.

>> Mike: There is an excellent YouTube channel.

>> Mike: The dude that runs it goes into the minutia m of, you know, explaining things. And he loves the Matrix series and he goes so far into detail at different points, you're like, there's no way that they were thinking this when they were making it. But you can't argue against him. It's like. Right. It kind of looks like they. They did know all this stuff beginning. And it's amazing. He went through the, the Colonel Sanders in the second movie when he's explaining everything, he explains that along with all the pouring out of Agent Smith's mouth. He even goes through the fourth Matrix movie. Keanu and, Lily go off and have a thing. Whatever it's called. We've got it up there. Bess and I watched it. It was pretty good. But it's weird. It's like Keanu is not in the Matrix anymore. He's just like, normal. And also he starts having flashbacks and I'm in the Matrix again. That's exactly the noise that he makes, you know, and he's still. They were still making John Wick movies

>> Darin: when he does in every movie.

>> Mike: It's funny because all the other Matrix movies, he's like, clean cut Neo guy. this one, they're in the middle of doing John Wick. He's got like the long hair and the scruffy beard. It's like, that's just how Neo looks now. Deal with it. Anyway, I will send you guys this, one of these videos because it is. Oh, please.

>> Darin: I've spent. I can't wait.

>> Mike: He spent like an hour on each movie. It is exceptionally interesting. You don't like these movies. I know, I. But you will enjoy these videos.

>> Mike: You know how many times I've seen the Matrix?

>> Mike: How many times you've seen the Matrix?

>> Mike: The entire series?

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: Probably about 15 to 16.


The Matrix beat Star Wars, Episode one, the Phantom Menace

>> Mike: Okay. I would make sure that you get this. Yeah.

>> Mike: And you know why? The watch of Jussie Brothers, are awesome. They've really, really thought this thing all the way through.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Mike: I feel like they wrote the entire thing, all at once and then separated it into those sections.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: Inappropriate timestamps and all that stuff, which

>> Darin: is how you're supposed to make them. Well, he has George Lucas it and decide, to go. So don't. You don't go back. You don't get one out of it. Oh, what a far too D2 fly now. Like, what the hell you doing?

>> Mike: One of the videos is, it's called There is no Spoon and it's focused on just the com. Just the conversation that Neo has with the spoon kid in the first movie. It's a 15 minute video. That scene is like two minutes long. Right. It's a 15 minute video deconstructing what that really means and why Neo's face looks the way it does in the spoon and what's going through Neo's face. I just want that.

>> Mike: Chicks. Chocolate chip cookies.

>> Mike: Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.

>> Darin: I'm talking about the makeup.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: Sorry. Yeah. Would you still want one if I hadn't offered it or whatever? You know, those questions, it goes through, like, every bit of dialogue. It's, it's. I'll send you that. Yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: No, I mean, I, I. When we first saw the first Matrix, we were all about that. Now, granted, we were laughing our ass off at Keanu Reeves.

>> Mike: Why.

>> Darin: You know, but we liked it. We did like it. And I loved that. The Matrix beat Star Wars, Episode one, the Phantom Menace.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: For, for special effects.

>> Mike: I was jumping forward, by the way, for four, not fur.

>> Mike: I know we're close to Hamilton.

>> Darin: No, I was jumping up and down watching the Oscars, thrilled that it beat them for that. Because as. I don't know if you guys know this, but I hate the prequels now. We.

>> Mike: Except for the lightsaber fight with Darth Maul and the two. That is pretty badass. you got to give that credit.

>> Darin: But it's. It wasn't enough to save the motion picture for me. It wasn't enough still. But we went to see the other Matrix movies and we had a hard time keeping up. But they were badass. Yeah, they were really, really cool. Yeah, they were.

>> Mike: There was a lot of. They got some hate, because they do. You have to really be paying attention to all the details. See, I. I'm even guilty of saying, well, Revolutions is just a bunch of shooting these robots with nothing, really. But there's. There's a lot of detail in them. They're. The other movies are just as deep, if not deeper than the first.

>> Mike: Yeah, but I think you're more action.

>> Mike: Yeah. You're spending more time like, oh, how many Smiths can he fight at this. At this time? Or when he says whoa, this time, is it going to be like whoa, or is it going to be whoa? You know, so people are focused on that. But there's so much stuff.

>> Mike: He should have done a Joey like whoa.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Whoa.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Or, Did I do that? No. What I love is in the Matrix was whoa. But then in John Wick, it's.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: So. So let's give him another trilogy and find one word that he can say.

>> Mike: It's artistic growth.

>> Mike: I mean, in John Wick, he had. How many. How many words did he actually speak?

>> Darin: Seven, I think.


I love the John Wick movies, but. I mean, love or hate

>> Mike: I thought it was eight.

>> Darin: Yeah, but maybe you Got it.

>> Mike: You gotta. I mean, love or hate. And I love. You know, everybody knows. I love the John Wick movies, but. And I love the Matrix movies, but to have, like, one series that's that popular and then just kind of fade it out. I think he made the movie with the clouds in the sky or something, and then he just didn't do anything. What was it? a Walk in the Cloud. Is it Walking the Clowns?

>> Darin: The one with Diane Keaton?

>> Mike: I don't know who that is.

>> Darin: I do.

>> Mike: I do.

>> Darin: That's a surprise.

>> Mike: She was in Debbie Met Sally.

>> Darin: She was in the God.

>> Mike: Godfather.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Which. I get those.

>> Mike: But then John Wick comes out. And the reason I sat down and watched John Wick, I was like, it's a. Wait, it's a movie about. Keanu Reeves is mad that someone shot his dog.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Or killed his dog and stole his car. And that's the movie M. And I thought that was hilarious. And once I stopped laughing, I put it in and I. I was like. I watched it all the way through. It was like to stay up till two in the morning on a weeknight. Like, I can't believe I'm watching this. This is amazing.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Was he more mad about the dog or the car?

>> Darin: The dog.

>> Mike: The dog.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: I would have been more mad about that.

>> Darin: I know you.

>> Mike: Because I only have two dogs. One I would die for and the other one. I wish somebody would.

>> Mike: Yeah. You know, kind of. Yeah. Just nudge it out and let it go a little bit.

>> Mike: Yeah, let it go.

>> Darin: Let it go.

>> Mike: Come to my house and take.

>> Darin: I'm not gonna ask you which dog.

>> Mike: Oh, no, you. You can firmly guess if you come over to the house.

>> Darin: Took a dip there.

>> Mike: I remember, though, one of the episodes when Matrix Resurrections was about to come out, and then John Wick was around the same time because there was these rumors going around. Do you remember that? Yeah.

>> Mike: yeah.

>> Mike: That they were going to release them on, like, the same day.

>> Mike: There was these AI things. It was a picture of John Wick aiming a gun at Neo.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And they were, like, poster for that.


Mike: I genuinely like Keanu Reeves. Honestly. I will say this. I'm ready to watch John Wick again

Because that's when you guys are talking about Counter Reeves and whether or not he's a good actor.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: And you guys got into it, and I agreed with Mike on that. Honestly.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: I mean, I just.

>> Darin: Which means you're right, Mike.

>> Mike: Right.

>> Mike: You're right.

>> Darin: Automatically agrees with you.

>> Mike: Exactly.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: Exactly.

>> Darin: No, I said that Keanu Reeves is one of the worst actors who I like. I genuinely like Keanu Reeves. It's But I'll tell you, Duke Kaboom has, Has, resurrected him.

>> Mike: I will. I will say this.

>> Darin: Even though The Toy Story 4 shouldn't have been made and Toy Story 5 should not have been made, and I haven't seen Toys 25 yet, but it has Duke Kaboom in it.

>> Mike: So the way that Neo has to be. The character fits Keanu Reeves, I think, like a glove. Yes. And I think that's the same way with, with John Wick. And. But what saves, what makes John Wick even more impressive for me is, I mean, they, they. The movies almost became a thing of. Let's see, what Keanu Reeves, how he's been practicing, how he's been doing this.

>> Mike: He does all this stuff, right?

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's one of those, like, the, the gun nuts can watch, like, everything he's doing. It's like, Val Kilmer, the, the reload that he doesn't heat the, In the middle of the battle in Los Angeles.

>> Darin: Yeah, yeah.

>> Mike: Testify. Anyway, they use that video, the Marines for a while use that video as training on how to do a. A live reload in the midd fight. Because he does it perfectly.

>> Darin: I'm ready to watch that again.

>> Mike: Yeah, I started watching it the other day.

>> Darin: It keeps coming up. whenever I'm scrolling through something, fine. I'm like, I want to watch Heat again.

>> Mike: Literally a week or two ago, I started watching it. I will say, if you feel the, the desire to watch it with your kids, there's some boom boom spots in the beginning that I completely forgot about.

>> Mike: Al.

>> Mike: Al and Wifey, and then De Niro and, And the West Virginia chick, which I forgot she was in it. You know, he meets the, the girl, the, the. The De Niro's love interest in the West Virginia chick. Yeah, she's from West Virginia.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: He's at a bar. It's De Niro. Looking all De Niro.

>> Darin: Y. Yeah.

>> Mike: And he's like, what you drinking? I'm having an iced tea. Like, whoa, I remember that.

>> Darin: And he said, did you get an iced tea or your iced tea?

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, that's a. That's what you call it? That's why he's the professional. They're making a Heat too. Did you know that?

>> Darin: I've heard.

>> Mike: Yeah. With, Lonnie Donaldson again. No, the guy.

>> Darin: Tito Puente.

>> Mike: The guy with the tea saber in the new Star wars movies with the big old chest. Yeah. Adam Driver. And then Molly, Ringwald or somebody. She's.

>> Darin: She's still Molly Ringwald's hot man.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Her career is still just.

>> Mike: You switch out.


Do you have favorite moments from the podcast? Do you listen to the show

Oh,

>> Darin: it's our 300th episode. Do you have any favorite moments from the past? I mean, you guys have been patrons for ever. Do you have favorite moments from the podcast?

>> Mike: Do you listen to the show?

>> Mike: I've heard it out there.

>> Mike: Yeah, it is.

>> Darin: I'd like to think that they're just, like, just not sending the checks blindly. I mean, I, I have a feeling that if they continuously listen, they probably stop sending. But do you have favorite moments of the show?

>> Mike: First off, I really liked from the beginning, like, watching you guys kind of develop the format. And, you know, at the beginning, you're just like, we have no idea what we're doing. You know, like, my oldest was like an infant, you know, not even a month, like, when you guys came out with it. but watching it kind of develop into what it is, which is like Mike antagonizing Darren, and it's fun.

>> Mike: That's the only reason I,

>> Mike: The more.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: The more antagonism there is.

>> Mike: Yeah, it's exciting.

>> Mike: So it's fun.

>> Darin: But I think we've grown.

>> Mike: I've clearly grown.

>> Darin: No, I think the podcast round is a shape.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I think the podcast has matured, and I'm not going to, I'm going to compare it to the Simpsons and not compare to the Simpsons, because we're not the Simpsons. Some of the early seasons of the Simpsons are painful to watch.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: You know.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: and I go back and listen to some from the first 10 or 12. I still find stories that I was really proud that we told.

>> Mike: There are.

>> Darin: And granted, you were the one who gave us our first monetary donation. Please go buy another microphone.

>> Mike: So I've offered you a couple.

>> Darin: Yeah. And by the way, thank you for that. Because when we got the two microphone system, something about going from one mic to two really changed us. Not only, professionally and how it sounded, but it kind of, like, got in our heads, and we, like, felt more professional.

>> Mike: It's one of those things that, yeah, it's like, what do they say when you, you dress for the job you want? It's like, we, like, oh, we actually have professional equipment here. We should try to do something worthwhile.

>> Mike: You know, I, I, I do want to interject. I, I have to say that my favorite episode was the pen, episode

>> Darin: when I got piston through the pen.

>> Mike: Oh, yeah, yeah.

>> Mike: Yes, yes. You got physical.

>> Darin: I did.

>> Mike: And we made sure tonight that there were no pens on Mike's side.

>> Mike: Of the table.

>> Mike: But there very heavy objects over here on Darren's side.

>> Darin: I could throw the keys or my wallet.

>> Mike: We put Chris Michael over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know there's a battle there.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: Darren was going to stop him. I may be a first degree black belt, but I'm not getting over there anytime soon.

>> Darin: So I will say, Mike, Mike got my lesson. He got the point. I got so. I got so pissed because he wouldn't stop interrupting my story. And we had a talk about that.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, we had, we had

>> Darin: some discussions and we've had discussions about a lot of other things that we've.

>> Mike: Yeah, that's what's growing your guys podcast.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: I mean, even if you go back to 100 episodes, the hundredth episode, the 200th, and out of this one, you can see that you guys have actually grown fonder of each other, even though you will not admit it.

>> Mike: Without a doubt, I enjoy Darren, immensely. For about an hour a week. No, no, I think everybody knows Darren is one of my best friends.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Of all time.

>> Darin: I don't think we could have done this podcast if we, if we really hate each other.

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: But.

>> Mike: So, yeah, this podcast exists on a number of different levels. So Mr. And Mrs. Chucklehead driving down the road right now listening to this. You're either listening because a story's funny, I put a hashtag about something you thought we were going to talk about and we didn't, or, you know, a lot of people, like when we go at each other just randomly, just like get into an argument about stuff. But the stuff that sticks out to me because I pretty famously quit listening to the podcast a while ago. And I, I've joked about that, but I haven't really quit listening because I do the video portion of it, so I see different aspects of it. So Darren. Sometimes I make videos of things that Darren has edited out and, and sometimes, you know, vice versa. So we see two different versions of the show and I generally let the podcast marinade for a bit and then I go listen to them later and I laugh my ass off. Darren will say something in the episode that I completely ignore. Drive right by it. Right. And then I'll laugh at what he said. I didn't hear it. And so I'll give him a compliment. Hey, Darren, you said something back in October, of last year was pretty. But there's, there's two other. But as far as the podcast itself, so that's, that's a little bit of enjoyment that I get. But my Main thing that I enjoy about it is that this is two buddies talking about our lives on the show, our lives as friends, and then our lives outside. And, through the course of that, we document life events. So every vacation this dude's been on for the past five years, every vacation I've been on is documented here. And it gives us an opportunity to go back and relive those portions. Right. And when we tell stories and Bess listens to the story, she's like, I, you know, best listens to the podcast religiously, still doesn't give us any money, but listens to it, and she'll say, oh, I completely forgot about that story that you told in college.


The ones that make me laugh the hardest are the last clips episodes

Or how did you get to episode 250 or whatever it is before you talked about drinking your contacts at Tool.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: The ones that make me laugh the hardest and that I love the most is when just breaks down the bloopers, the last clips episode. Those are the ones I don't listen to when I'm driving because I'll. I'll wreck. And I've listened to him with Bess in the car. She doesn't think they're that funny as I do, because I think they're funny because I know what's behind the scenes going on there. I know that when it got really quiet, that me and Darren looking at each other over the microphone is going, oh, to me, that's hilarious. Right? Or when. What was it in the last clips episode? You saw something with a maxi? And I said, that's on the high flow days.

>> Darin: It's a Mini Cooper.

>> Mike: The Mini Cooper. And I said, the Maxi Cooper is for high flow days.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Mike: And you. That like, it was like a time bomb. It hit you like, a few seconds later. You just dropped out. And I could hear. So the normal listener would think, oh, the audio cut out, but I hear you wheezing in the background. Just shut your ass down.

>> Mike: I know.

>> Mike: If I could.

>> Mike: If I can shut Darren down in an episode. That's my favorite. That's. Those are my favorite moments.

>> Mike: One of the first ones I remember of that happening was you're talking about your dog.

>> Darin: Your.

>> Mike: Your old dog, Molly with the poop. Yeah. And he's like.

>> Mike: And I threw it up in the

>> Mike: tree and it went. And Darren just lost it. And he's like, what was that? Sa.

>> Mike: can do again?

>> Mike: Mike's like,

>> Mike: and how long did that stay in the tree?

>> Mike: it just came down a couple years. Yeah. The plastic is still in the ground out there. I've never Picked it up.

>> Mike: So I did have a question. When are you going to take the Halloween, lights down?

>> Mike: Never. Three years ago. Never.

>> Mike: I was going to plug him in tonight, but I was afraid to get shot.

>> Darin: Guys, that's another. He took his Christmas tree last week.

>> Mike: Yeah, that's a. That's another feature of it is that you can hold. It's fine because we do this every week and we've been religious about that. You can go back and we can figure out how long that has been in the tree because the episode that it finally came down, I documented that.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And then I've given updates and I'm updating episode 300. The blue plastic from the bag is still out there.

>> Darin: So that's homework for. For our viewers.

>> Mike: Yeah. If you're in this house now, if you've figured out if we've gotten famous somehow and I'm in some weird place and you now live in this house. Yes. Out by the tree is a blue piece of plastic that contained my late dogs. I don't know what's going on in the world of DNA technology is there. You could recreate the dog from that.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And if you're a patron, it's a free gift from the show.

>> Darin: Now, if I could say something nice about Mike and that I believe God puts people in our lives for a reason. I think you were destined to be my neighbor. I think you were destined to be my neighbor. And I think Mike was destined to be my friend. Our kids met in kindergarten, and they had a play date. And I remember coming over to pick up Cameron up after him having a play date with Andrew. And Mike was complaining, just bitching as hard as he can because somebody called me at 10 o' clock last night and I had to put down my bowl of cereal to answer the phone. M. And I thought, oh, my God, I'm talking to me. I am literally talking to me. I was like. And I thought, he is, like, exactly like me. Turns out he is the closest to me of any friend that I have. And I think that's why this podcast is. Works so well, because that's why our chemistry works. And I believe our chemistry works.

>> Mike: It does.

>> Mike: The stories are true. They're true. I did sit the. The story of me eating ice cream when the fire alarm's going off. I was right. I was on this couch right here, and I remember it was right there. And I put the. I took the ice cream. I was like, are you serious?


Chris Calloway says he has close friendships with many people

>> Darin: Libby used to say, did Mike really do that? She stopped saying that.

>> Mike: No, no, no. So. And I'll go even further. So, my friends, I. I've been very lucky in with the people, that have come into my life at various points. I feel like I lucked out as. As far as high school friends. We're still in touch. I'm still in touch with my high school friends and my college friends. We. We still talk about the fact that we ended up in the same dorm together. that. That had to have been, you know, something was, putting us all together. And I feel like Darren and you guys coming into my life. I mean, you guys are hilarious. And. And I've talked with different groups of people, like, about having close friendships. I. I have close friendships, and I open up to my friends, because I have close friendships. I'm not just friends with anybody. well, Chris, but normally Mr. Hughes, but no, I. I do. I. I'm an only child. And if you. If you know me, put a few beers in m. Me and I'll tell you all kinds of stuff and

>> Darin: give you a lot of hugs.

>> Mike: I cherish, friends, friends and close family the highest. So I don't make friends with people easily. But what I do when I do, it's. It's a. It's a bond. And I cherish you guys in my life as my friends.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: That's awesome, you guys. Halloween party. I would always listen to the podcast, especially, like, in the earlier episodes when I was mowing the lawn. It was perfect. I loved it because I go through a whole. It took two hours to get the whole lawn right. I go through a whole episode every. You guys have crank them out. You guys are documenting their lives like you said. So I've heard a lot of, like, different stories and, like, I mean, I know you, Darren, obviously, but.

>> Mike: Right.

>> Mike: I didn't know you that well yet. Like, yeah, you may have known my face. Maybe talk once or twice.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: We're at the Halloween party, and you guys were there, and I was like, oh, sweet. So we get there and, like, I've never met a celebrity.

>> Mike: You still have it.

>> Darin: But.

>> Mike: But it was like.

>> Darin: It was one of those.

>> Mike: I'm like, this guy talks about his life every week, and I listen to it. He knows about me, so he's, like, searching for something to, like, talk about

>> Darin: and find common ground.

>> Mike: And you're like, when you meet a

>> Mike: celebrity, tell me about the dog in your tree again.

>> Darin: Well, that was like, the time I met Chris Calloway in Kroger. Oh, yeah. That was the only time I've met someone who I didn't know. Yeah, right. I didn't previously know who listened to the. The podcast. And here I am in the produce department at Kroger, and Chris Calloway is wearing his Irritable dad syndrome T shirt.

>> Mike: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Darin: Crazy, right? And he gets like. I'm just walking down along the aisle getting ready to get some peppers, and he gets like, leaning up like. Like, look at me. And I'm m. Like, what the hell's going? Hey. You know? And then, hey, I'm Chris Calloway. I'm like, how cool is that? And just like, he has heard God knows how many things about me, and I had no idea who he was or what. So, yeah, very wild.


All kind of weird experiences. I mean, one of the weirdest for me is

>> Mike: All kind of weird experiences. I mean, one of the weirdest for me is I told a story about, getting into a fight with another kid in middle school. And I told the story because I thought it was hilarious. It was in sixth grade. The teacher was in the room when we were fighting, and we were in the front of the classroom, like, that's where the lockers were, because it's Proctorville, and. And we were fighting and. And it was rough. And, the teacher never looked over. I mean, she was. She was old. She didn't know what was going on. And the guy that I was in a fight with listened to that episode and messaged me. He's like, I had no idea. He's like, I. I remember that happening now, but I was like, it's like, dude, like, so me and him were about the same size in middle school. He ends up going off and being a Marine. and I'm talking arms like tree trunks. You know, the guy that, you know is like, it's just a. A badass.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And then we, you know, we had. So I showed the high school reunion, and I told him there, you know, after about three to 400 beers, I told him we had the fight, and he thought it was hilarious. And I'm like, I'm so glad you think that's funny. But, yeah, he just randomly. He just randomly picked an episode. He found out I had a podcast and listen to the episode. And he was just. He said as he was listening to that story, he got it. he was like, oh, my God, this guy's talking about me. It's going around all over the place. It's not going that far, but it ended up being a funny story.

>> Darin: Yeah, it is going out there.

>> Mike: It's out there. Yeah.

>> Mike: But no, we.

>> Mike: We do have. We have you know, I. I joke that we. We don't have a lot of patrons, but we do have enough to cover the cost of the show. And we don't know all of them. And that was the first weird. The first time we got a patron. Right. That was above the $1 level. You know, once you go above a dollar, you get into the uncensored and, and all that other stuff. You get into us just dropping F bombs and you know, like the un And I was like, oh, wow, there's, there's a person now.

>> Darin: Yeah. That we don't know.

>> Mike: That we don't know.

>> Darin: We've never met him.

>> Mike: That has access to all the videos, these stories. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

>> Darin: Fun person you want to have.

>> Mike: You know, then it was like, if I ever run into this dude, there's a possibility. It's a non. There's a, It's a non zero chance that I run into somebody that all of a sudden knows all this about me and I don't have any idea who they are. And that's kind of cool.

>> Darin: It is cool.

>> Mike: Yeah. And we've got people in other countries. We have a, fan in Germany that has been with us for years at this point.

>> Darin: We've had people listen to us in India.

>> Mike: Yeah. India.

>> Dave: Yeah.

>> Mike: That was a mistake.

>> Mike: That has got to be a mistake.

>> Mike: As it turns out, that was a vpn.

>> Mike: That's possible.

>> Mike: Darren always throw little, like, Easter eggs out when I'm in an episode. Usually when you, when you're insulting me.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: A lot of us.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: He's like, hey, you're the podcast. I just want to apologize in advance. I'm like, oh, here we go. But it's cool because, like, yeah, I got a marriage. Like, hey, I was in the podcast this weekend. You know, there's one time, like, my, sister in law and brother in law respect. Yeah. And I was like, I was in. I was in my neighbor's podcast. And like, what? And then it opens up the whole, like, you know, what happened and all that. And then we listened to it that night.

>> Dave: You're listening to Irritable Dad Syndrome forklift, certified since 1996.

>> Darin: Well, now we're having fun, aren't we?


Jason: I want to thank everybody who's listened to Irritable Dad Syndrome

I've got to mention that Dave Lay was invited to be here and he was unable to come. he says hello to you. And he says hello to you, Jason. Dave's not here. Dave lay. my God. Every time. every. It's like I send something to Dave and never does he not send the audio Back within, like, the next day or something.

>> Mike: Something. Yeah.

>> Darin: Dave is awesome.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I love having Dave on this podcast, and I don't know what we'd do if we didn't have Dave as part of the podcast. And he is an integral part of why people enjoy this thing. So, Dave. Oh, yeah. Thank you very much, Dave.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I want to thank everybody who's ever listened. I want to thank our loyal, fans. I want to thank our new fans. And seriously, there are people who have been with us since episode one.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And it means the world to me. It really, really does. So we're going to wrap this up. Jason, thank you very much. Chris, thank you very much.

>> Mike: Yeah. Thanks for inviting me. Absolutely.

>> Darin: To all our fans, thank you for being with us for 300 episodes, and we hope to see you next week for 301 on Irritable Dad Syndrome.

>> Dave: Irritable dad Syndrome is a Mike Odle Darren Cox production.

>> Darin: Seriously, I would spend an extra two to three extra hours auditing the, UDIO levels.

>> Mike: I love scotch. Scotch. One thing this podcast needs more of is caffeine. And touring. Yeah, Straight from a minute. Balls.

>> Mike: Touring or touring?

>> Mike: Touring.

>> Mike: Taurine.

>> Mike: Well, there's two different ways to say tour.

>> Darin: Tour.

>> Mike: Tour or tour?

>> Mike: Tour. Tour.

>> Darin: Tour.

>> Mike: If you're from Hamilton, one. Two words.

>> Mike: Wait, is it correct or one way is stupid?

>> Mike: It's Washington.

>> Mike: Also,

>> Mike: it's not a creek.

>> Mike: It's crick.

>> Darin: You see, I only say root if it's Route 66. Everything else is route.

>> Mike: My brother gives me so much because. Yeah, because he's like, you can't say root. We're not in Europe.

>> Mike: It's route.

>> Mike: And I'm like, it's Rudy. I just say whatever I feel like at the time, and you know what I'm saying?

>> Mike: Yeah. I mean, I'm from Hamilton. We're allowed to make this, right. We add letters in where they don't belong.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: You put extra syllables in if you want to. It's fine. You don't have four. It's forward.


Can we take a break here real quick? What I do. The segue that I use. Yeah, you can attach to the segment

>> Mike: Can we take a break here real quick?

>> Mike: What I do.

>> Mike: I want to move this. no, no, no. I just heard some clicks. Oh, thank you.

>> Mike: Was it a dolphin?

>> Mike: No, it was Gerald.

>> Mike: Probably my knee.

>> Mike: No, no, no.

>> Mike: Gerald was doing a little subsurface refinishing, if you know what? I,

>> Mike: One of your guys. Halloween parties.

>> Mike: Quit hitting the table.

>> Mike: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's my first podcast.

>> Mike: No, no, you're fine. Don't. Which is built with original. Original hardware.

>> Mike: Can I play with your stuff.

>> Mike: What?

>> Darin: Hello?

>> Mike: Boy, did I come back at the right time.

>> Dave: Hold on. The show's not over yet. Irritable dad syndrome is going into overtime starting right now.

>> Mike: The.

>> Darin: The segue that I use. Yeah, I got that idea because I was listening to.

>> Mike: Is that part of the way still?

>> Darin: It's not way. And I also don't understand what way means.

>> Mike: Do you not know what I'll tell you?

>> Mike: This is what the patrons pay for here

>> Darin: is that's where you roll up your pants, right?

>> Mike: No, you take your pants, off for that.

>> Mike: Yeah. Okay.

>> Mike: This is good old fashioned family fun.

>> Darin: Little segue that I use kind, of like they do with Law and Order.

>> Mike: Yeah, you can attach to the segment.

>> Mike: You can't.

>> Darin: I edited that. I found like a 5 second little cut and then I started throwing in little sound effects.

>> Mike: Don't Google it. Don't. Yeah, don't Google.

>> Darin: Is that like blue tortilla or blue?

>> Mike: No, it's more like, wait till you get to work before you.

>> Darin: No, no, no. Do not do know what that is either.

>> Mike: Yeah, that.

>> Mike: Don't serve that at Waffle House.

>> Mike: No. At least not before 1 o' clock in the morning.

>> Darin: Honest to God, you guys are laughing your ass off. And inside I'm like, why are they laughing at Pedway? I didn't catch on that. You thought I said way.

>> Mike: Well, yeah.

>> Darin: Yeah. I wasn't gonna stop the show, but I'm like, what?

>> Mike: What?

>> Mike: What is so damn funny?

>> Darin: Hey, what happened?

>> Mike: That's what happens when you have somebody on the podcast can't hear very well.


You guys are talking about, uh, Alexa the other week. So it's like having Mike on an Alexa

>> Mike: You guys are talking about, Alexa the other week.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: Like, it sniffs back at you.

>> Darin: Now she's getting.

>> Mike: Yeah, like, you know, said since it switched over to the. The AI or whatever the. Plus, like, she'll talk back to you

>> Darin: if you smart does that too.

>> Mike: Yeah, it never used to. It used to like, because ours, like,

>> Darin: does she sound younger, prettier and sexier?

>> Mike: Yeah, but then she'll like, quit back if you say something. So, like, I have a really bad habit if somebody, like, if I'm driving and somebody cuts me off or whatever under my breath, I'll just end it. I've done this, like some scratch. I'll just end it with like, idiot. Well, a lot of times I'll tell it to, like, go into like the evening mode routine where like, dims the lights and everything. And a lot of times it doesn't understand me. Yeah. And it'll try to do something totally different like, oh, it's gonna be 56 degrees tonight, you know, and windy or whatever. I would, like, turn off the kitchen. And then finally it will. And it listens for that, like, extra couple seconds now right after. And I'll be like. One time I was just like, idiot. And it was like, wow. I guess that's going on my performance review, huh?

>> Mike: And I was like, whoa. Like, what?

>> Mike: Like, where did this come.

>> Mike: Because it used to be. I don't, like, turd at all.

>> Mike: Yeah. It used to have, like. It would just be like, beep, beep. And then, like, shut off.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: And now, like, it'll smart back at you. So now what's happening is I'll get progressively more aggressive with it. So now, the other night, I wanted it to play some 80s song, but, I think it was rat. But anyway, it kept getting round.

>> Darin: Round.

>> Mike: It kept getting it wrong, and I kept it. Finally, I was. I was just like, if you're gonna

>> Darin: ask for a rat.

>> Mike: Also Van Halen.

>> Mike: That's what I was thinking.

>> Mike: Van Halen, round and round

>> Mike: for unlawful, carnal knowledge.

>> Darin: Yeah, that was run around.

>> Mike: Second run around.

>> Mike: But I. I finally. I went to it and I said, I can't wait till Apple releases a decent homepod so I can replace you.

>> Mike: Oh.

>> Mike: Just to see what it did. Because at this point, I know it's going to process it.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Mike: And I was like, wow. Well, I guess I won't have to worry about getting the song right in a landfill, will I? And I was just like, wow. So now it's this game where I just, like, see, what mean things I can say to it.

>> Mike: Exactly.

>> Mike: So it's like having Mike on an Alexa.

>> Mike: It's basically.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, there you go. There you go.

>> Darin: Can you imagine if Mike was. It's like, oh, hey, Mike. It would have the capital, California. What's the capital.

>> Mike: They would have to have a mode where I just say randomly in the middle of the night. Like, in the middle of the night. My. My speaker just goes, what the.

>> Darin: You're like, mike, how long. How long do I bake chicken breast?

>> Mike: That would be. We used to Google. We used to Google lady and, think she got a lobotomy. She doesn't answer. Like, she used to resolve arguments. You know, they. The family's trying to convince me to. Abraham Lincoln was a president or something. You know, now we'll say, hey, Google, what's the. What's the weather? And I'm sorry, I don't understand that question. I don't know if it's being sarcastic or not, this went off the rails.

>> Mike: Did you say weather or whether, Because it could be Hamilton speak. You don't understand Hamilton.

>> Mike: No, I have noticed. I. I use.

>> Mike: If you guys. If you guys follow us on.

>> Mike: Mary and I both have this really bad thing if you're not supposed to laugh.

>> Mike: Yeah, somebody else's laugh.


I demand no one laugh on this show. Absolutely just. Recording stopped

>> Mike: Like we just add. Absolutely just.

>> Mike: I demand no one laugh on this show.

>> Darin: I was thinking this is going to be bonus, but no, no, this is.

>> Mike: Recording stopped.